Traveller-digest      Monday, August 23 1999      Volume 1999 : Number 1001



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The following topics are covered in this digest:

Re: Re Slings
Roma Class Feedback.
Re: Hudson-class Lander (GTL9)
Re: Thrust effects (was HEPlar lives!)
Re: Cloning (was Hard Science)
Re: Bureaucrats
Re: Slings and Outrageous Fortunes of War
Re: Will the real Strephon please stand up! (Re: Cloning)
Re: A plea for help ...
Re: Thrust effects (was HEPlar lives!)
Re: Re Slings
Re: Will the real Strephon please stand up! (Re: Cloning)
Re: Thrust effects (was HEPlar lives!)
re: Will the real Strephon please stand up! (Re: Cloning)
re: Hard Times
Re: The Heritage Trilogy
RE: A plea for help ...
RE: Hats off to Jesse
I'm back
RE: Shirt picture favorites? (Was Hats off.....)
RE: Traveller-digest V1999 #998
RE: Shirt picture favorites? (Was Hats off.....)
Re: Will the real Strephon please stand up!
re: Hard Times

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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:39:40 -0400
From: "Daniel Phelps" <phelpsd@gate.net>
Subject: Re: Re Slings

Was Written:


>>Actually, it sounds more like a human powered trebuchet...
>>
>Trebuchets keep a cup fixed to the end of the arm, and the cup remains
open.


I fear that you may be somewhat in error.  Your classic  trebuchet did not
have a cup but a sling.  What you are describing in the arm of a classic
catapulta which was powered by a tightly twisted band of cord.  Maiden's
hair was the legended fiber of choice.  There are several 16th century
illustrations of trebuchets by Rampauli (sic) which are as you describe
however they are quite clearly post its general use on the battle field.
Check out Payne Galloway's research on the subject, while ancillary to his
main interest it is still quite interesting though late Victorian or early
Edwardian (I forget exactly when she passed beyond the pale).   In the last
15 years or so there were several articles in Scientific American some of
which provide quite excellent information on the classic trebuchet.  I have
a photo copy of one of them about some where.  Mad Englishmen having jolly
fun launching a small Brit auto, sans engine I believe.  You might be
interested to know that while the trebuchet was the biggest projectile
launcher on the pre and even some what post gun powder battle field there
was a smaller non-gravity arm, traction arm version using the combined
pulling efforts of men.  Both of the versions of the trebuchet I have
described have been recreated by SCA members.  the Grey Company down under
has a web page devoted to the trebuchet which you might find interesting as
well.

If anyone is truly intersted I will dig through my library and give them
several book cites re siege weapons in general and the trebuchet in
particular.

Dan
know in the SCA as
Ld. Daniel Raoul le Vascon de Navarre'

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:12:25 +1000
From: dadams@parracity.nsw.gov.au
Subject: Roma Class Feedback.

Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:41:12 +0100
From: John Buston <John.Buston@tesco.net>
Subject: Re: The Roma Class Marine Support (Engineering) ship (GTL12)

>>This design was done using spacedock, so it may be broken. Any
>>feedback/flames appreciated.

>150 Spacedock - I ran the figures and this has to be total space, not
carried
>craft space so your space dock is 150 DT too small. You require 2DT of
space
>dock for each DT of craft carried.

>You only need a space dock for one of the cutters. The spare modules and
spare
>cutter can go in vehicle bays to save a lot of space.

I later saw that 1dton of spacedock equals 1/2dt space craft. This will
need to be modified. I envisioned a large spacedock so that loading moduals
can be done inside the ship, something that vehicle bays can not do.



>>Empty Mass:13,728.680tns Loaded Mass:15,003.680tns

>These figures are too low. I got a Loaded Mass over 16200 stons and that
was
>excluding carried craft. Your armor alone is 12320 stons. The M-drive,
j-drive &
>fuel tank add another 2900 stons. So this makes the unloaded figure well
over
>15000 stons.

>This makes your acceleration figures too high too.


>>Spare Cargo Space:205,000

>I don't understand this number, what is it?

>You have cradles available to carry 250 tons mass.
>You have cargo space for 100 Displacement Tons volume.

All of above : Spacedock figures. Loosk like I need to recalculate

>Armour:10,000

>This is an awful lot of armour for a support craft. This much armour is
more in
>line with a front line combat craft.

>Mainly for adverse conditions. You may be right here.

>>2 Nuclear Dampers

>Why no meson screens too?

Mainly for cleanup and safe use of nuclear appliances (bombs) for
escavations et al. Thsi shing should be able to turn mountians to rubble,
yet make it safe for people to work around it. Hence the Dampners.


>>4 Corridor space

>Is this a component allowed in space dock?
>Corridoor space is already included in the stateroom & other living
quarter
>figures.

Yes.

>I don't see a price tag. I got MCr 718.

I got Mcr127.680

Bum.

Back to the planing boards. (and jettison Spacedock)


Darryl
Visit our Web Site : http://www.ParraCity.nsw.gov.au

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:11:04 +0100
From: John Buston <John.Buston@tesco.net>
Subject: Re: Hudson-class Lander (GTL9)

>Hm, would different yield bombs make a different 'note' when they go off?
>If so, then by carefully sequencing and timing the thrust of your drive you
>could play music.

You are thinking maybe someone would ask for a repeat performance?

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:21:05 +0100
From: John Buston <John.Buston@tesco.net>
Subject: Re: Thrust effects (was HEPlar lives!)

>>Contragravity is like a thruster plate, except that it can only be
>>used close to a planet, since its thrust is reduced proportional to the
>>local force of gravity.

>Where does it say this? I only have access to CT and TNE canon.

Not in GT either. CG only provides lift not vector.

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:01:21 +1000
From: "Alan Bradley" <alanb@elf.brisnet.org.au>
Subject: Re: Cloning (was Hard Science)

> From: "Keven R. Pittsinger" 
> > Well, other than Cleon the Mad, and Strephon the Clone, the rest of the
> > Emperors who died by 'right of assasination' were all Barracks Emperors during
> > the Civil War. They all died not for experimenting with cloning, but
> > experimenting with crowning themselves Emperor.;-)
> 
> You're forgetting the Empress that Cleon The Not Wrapped Too Tight whacked.
> <grin>

The last three Emperors/Empresses before the Civil War took the throne by
assassination:  
Cleon IV whacked Nicholle
Jerome whacked Cleon IV
Jaqueline whacked Jerome.

Olav was just following tradition when he whacked Jaqueline.

I doubt any of them were hit because of cloning experiments - there are
plenty of good reasons for grabbing the throne without it.

And by the way:  Cleon the Third was "Cleon the Mad".  I tend to think of
Cleon the Fourth as "Cleon the Bad" - a non-dynastic usurper and all-round
disreputable character.  Of course that raises the question of "Cleon the
Dangerous to Know"...

Alan Bradley
alanb@elf.brisnet.org.au

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:20:06 +1000
From: "Alan Bradley" <alanb@elf.brisnet.org.au>
Subject: Re: Bureaucrats

> From: Ian or Katts 
> OK. Time to write out the campaign thats been kicking around for a while.
> The High Violence Mercantile Campaign. Think Manga. Think Dr Strangelove.
> Think GAO reports.

Scary.  

> In sixty days, the PCs ship will be fair game to anything in LSP's
colours.

Ouzo starts wondering about his old friends from the Thoengling Empire's
commerce raider squadrons....

Alan Bradley
alanb@elf.brisnet.org.au

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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:50:58 -0700
From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@pharmacy.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: Slings and Outrageous Fortunes of War

Leonard Erickson wrote:
> 

> The local SCA group has a three man traction trebuchet they use in SCA
> "wars". It'll lob whole *baskets of "fuzzy green death" (tennis balls
> substituting for small rocks) quite a ways.

HAHAHAHA followed no doubt by an even larger mass of slobbering brown
death (every dog within range) I have a picture of a shower of tennis
balls, followed by a shower of labrador retrievers chasing them ;-) 

- -- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:53:48 -0700
From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@pharmacy.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: Will the real Strephon please stand up! (Re: Cloning)

Keith Johnson wrote:
> 
> However, I just picked up Hard Times and read that Strephon refused to be
> tested by IRIS to confirm if he really was the Emperor.  After he refused,
> IRIS publicly stated that "Strephon" wasn't a contender and backed Margaret
> as the highest ranking noble eligible for the Iridium Throne.  Despite the
> fact that IRIS holds no significant power during the Rebellion, it has to
> be PR that is extremely damaging to Strephon's cause.

It as because Strephon didn't much trust or believe IRIS, seeing them as
only a bunch of opportunists angling to be the power behind the throne.
That is mentioned in Survival Margin.

- -- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:04:53 -0600 (MDT)
From: Merrick Burkhardt <merrick@shell.rt66.com>
Subject: Re: A plea for help ...

Chris,

I'll copy the rules for you if you don't get a better solution.

- -Merrick (merrick@rt66.com)

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:41:50 +1200
From: Rupert Boleyn <rboleyn@paradise.net.nz>
Subject: Re: Thrust effects (was HEPlar lives!)

On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Andy Jackson wrote:
 
> Um...wrong ;)  It provided 10-20% of gravitational force sideways in TNE/FF&S.  In Striker it could provide any amount of sideways force.  I don't know about T4 or MT.

I'm fairly sure that this is a FF&S2 thing, as the grav belts in the
RCES equipment book have ducted fans for thrust, which they won't
need if you can get thrust from the CG system. It's helicopters, etc
that get 10% of their lift in 'free' thrust.

- --
Rupert Boleyn
email: rboleyn@paradise.net.nz

A pessimist is an optimist with a sense of history

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:45:51 +1200
From: Rupert Boleyn <rboleyn@paradise.net.nz>
Subject: Re: Re Slings

On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, William F. Hostman wrote:

> Trebuchets keep a cup fixed to the end of the arm, and the cup remains open.

I'm fairly sure that the better trebuchets had 'slings' holding the
projectlie, for the same reasons a staff sling does.

- --
Rupert Boleyn
email: rboleyn@paradise.net.nz

A pessimist is an optimist with a sense of history

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:50:59 +1200
From: Rupert Boleyn <rboleyn@paradise.net.nz>
Subject: Re: Will the real Strephon please stand up! (Re: Cloning)

On Tue, 24 Aug 1999,  Rev. Keith Johnson wrote:

> However, I just picked up Hard Times and read that Strephon refused to be
> tested by IRIS to confirm if he really was the Emperor.  After he refused,
> IRIS publicly stated that "Strephon" wasn't a contender and backed Margaret
> as the highest ranking noble eligible for the Iridium Throne.  Despite the
> fact that IRIS holds no significant power during the Rebellion, it has to
> be PR that is extremely damaging to Strephon's cause.
> 
> If he was the real Strephon, why the heck didn't he go along with the test?
>  Was this written up anywhere else?

The same thing is said in _Survival Margin_, and in his personal diary
he says something about it, but I can't remember (and my stuff is still
in boxes) whether he won't allow the tests because they'll show that
he's _been_ cloned, or that he _is_ a clone.

- --
Rupert Boleyn
email: rboleyn@paradise.net.nz

A pessimist is an optimist with a sense of history.

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:54:36 +0100
From: SD Mooney <dom@cybergoths.u-net.com>
Subject: Re: Thrust effects (was HEPlar lives!)

 "Nick Bradbeer" <nickb@ndirect.co.uk> writes:
>Well, every single ship in Brilliant Lances (that's all the classic designs)
>has contra grav, except for the Lab Ship, Donosev, Chrysanthemum and Aurora.
>All those four are unstreamlined, and thus not atmosphere-capable.

A USL ship can land in an atmosphere with CG, provided the bracings are
adequate (ie it is stressed to take local gravity). In most cases this is
probably the case as the ship can take accn from the drives.

CG means it can float down real slow.

Dom

- ----------Dom Mooney---dom@cybergoths.u-net.com------------
                       MiB - Marines in Battledress
   "Protecting the Imperium from the Scum of the Galaxy"
Rob Prior's Mac software @ http://www.bits.org.uk/ 

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 01:00:23 +0100
From: SD Mooney <dom@cybergoths.u-net.com>
Subject: re: Will the real Strephon please stand up! (Re: Cloning)

Keith Johnson <kejohnson@2xtreme.net> writes:
>If he was the real Strephon, why the heck didn't he go along with the test?
> Was this written up anywhere else?

See Survival Margin - he refused the test as he was sickened by the
destruction his policies had caused (the death of those he loved, the
mistake of making Dulinor ArchDuke, the destruction in Dagudashag and
Gushemege Sectors resulting from his declaration of existance post
assassination). That's why he sends Avery to the Marches, which is the last
vestige of what he wanted to build. ISTR that the Regency Sourcebook and
Arrival Vengeance have some more on this topic.

Dom

- ----------Dom Mooney---dom@cybergoths.u-net.com------------
                       MiB - Marines in Battledress
   "Protecting the Imperium from the Scum of the Galaxy"
Rob Prior's Mac software @ http://www.bits.org.uk/ 

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 01:05:18 +0100
From: SD Mooney <dom@cybergoths.u-net.com>
Subject: re: Hard Times

Keith Johnson <kejohnson@2xtreme.net> writes:

>Speaking of Hard Times... eight or nine years after it was released, I
>finally picked it up.
>I was curious how many Trav players use it, and what the rest of the TML
>peanut gallery thought of it.  Good?  Bad?  Stupid?  Excellent for storing
>in your fireplace?
>Just curious...

HT is the best ever Traveller supplement and background, IMO. I think that
it has more of a feeling of hope, of turning back the tide, than TNE did.
There are opportunities for the players to do something that matters, to be
heroes or villains. The fact that Virus snuffs out these efforts just
heightens the candles against the night feel.

I'd rate it up with: High Guard, The Traveller Adventure, Milieu 0
Campaign, the Regency Sourcebook, and GT: Far Trader. (*)

(*) DGP excluded as we don't talk about that anymore. ;-)

Dom

- ----------Dom Mooney---dom@cybergoths.u-net.com------------
                       MiB - Marines in Battledress
   "Protecting the Imperium from the Scum of the Galaxy"
Rob Prior's Mac software @ http://www.bits.org.uk/ 

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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:18:15 -0400
From: "Jory Earl" <j-man@iname.com>
Subject: Re: The Heritage Trilogy

>Wasn't that the premise of Weber's Mutineer Moon/Armageddon inheritance
>series as well?

>           -- Juliean Galak (a.k.a. Falcon)

Very similiar, except the Achuultani were being used by a psychotic sentient
computer system and are unaware that they are slaves to it.  Captured
achuultani eventually become friendly when outside the influence of their
computer systems.


___________________________________________________________
 J-Man
 ICQ# 2843475
 New Hampshire - U.S.A.
 Email : j-man@iname.com
 Home Page : http://www.geocities.com/~jman037/
___________________________________________________________

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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:53:30 -0700
From: "Jesse DeGraff" <fenris@slip.net>
Subject: RE: A plea for help ...

There's always eBay to keep tabs on.  May show up there...

Jesse




> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com
> [mailto:owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com]On Behalf Of Chris Olson
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 8:09 AM
> To: Traveller
> Subject: A plea for help ...
> 
> 
> I discovered last night that my box of mayday was destroyed in a flood
> one year ago (the box looked ok, but it been soaked from beneath and all
> of the paper has been fused into one lump and my efforts separate them
> have only shredded them ...)
> 
> I'm willing to send a picture of the fused book to anyone who would like
> to see it ...
> 
> What I need is for some kind soul to do one of three things:
> 
>     1)  e-mail me an electronic version of the rules
>     2)  snail mail me a photocopy of the rules (I'll pay postage)
>     3)  Either sell me a copy or tell me where I can find one (I tried
> Crazy Igor's, but no dice) ...
> 
>  really prefer #1, then #2, then #3, of course ...
> 
> Chris Olson
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:56:20 -0700
From: "Jesse DeGraff" <fenris@slip.net>
Subject: RE: Hats off to Jesse

It was this close Todd >||<  And it was beer not Diet Pepsi as it's after
5:00pm  :)

Maybe you could get some writing done if you ignored your charges for a
coupla' hours each day ;)

Jesse



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com
> [mailto:owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com]On Behalf Of
> Tascelt@aol.com
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 8:48 AM
> To: traveller@lists.imagiconline.com
> Subject: Re: Hats off to Jesse
>
>
> Jesse,
>
> Stop the charade...it's time you told people the truth!!
> Everyone, Jesse's
> art work is produced in a sweat shop in northern China by poor
> orphans who
> labor 16 hours a day to produce these images that he takes credit
> for!!  We
> must stand against his kind of evil tyranical child laobor!!
>
> ok...ok...so it's not true, I just said it cause I'm jealous of
> his talent.
> If I'm lucky I did get him to spew diet pepsi all over his keyboard.
>
> TAS
>

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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:35:07 -0700
From: "Glenn M. Goffin" <gmgoffin@pacbell.net>
Subject: I'm back

I'm back from nine days and eight nights in the high Sierras.  I hope
that you've solved all questions regarding near-c asteroids, Aslan
sexuality, and the viability of piracy at all time periods in which
interstellar travel occurred.  

I spent most of the trip above 10,000 feet (that's what 3,000 meters? 
There really isn't much oxygen there, especially when one has been
living at sea level for eight years, so I had a good experience with
thin atmosphere (see, there's an ob Traveller in everything).  We were
also carrying fairly heavy loads (about 1/3 of our body weight), so I
could feel the effects of encumbrance, too.  I definitely couldn't do
things at altitude with a pack that I could do at sea level without a
pack.  

We also climbed Mt. Goddard (13,500+ feet; class 2), where we found rope
and webbing leading off the mountainside to something that we couldn't
get close enough to see because of the slope (and our lack of gear; it
was after all only a class 2 peak).  From below, through a small
telescope (15x) it looked like a white outline of a human form, upside
down, and very symmetrical.  A ranger later told us it was wreckage from
a plane crash in December, and "they" (he didn't specify who) would be
coming to recover that item over Labor Day weekend.  The proximity to
Area 51 made me a little suspicious, of course.

Anyway, I hope everyone has had a week half as good as mine.

- --Glenn

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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:59:07 -0700
From: "Jesse DeGraff" <fenris@slip.net>
Subject: RE: Shirt picture favorites? (Was Hats off.....)

So whaddya' gonna' do, take away Christmas?  :)  Actually, shirts with full
color starships on them are a wee bit more involved than "My platoon went to
LV-426 and all I got was this stupid facehugger".

To be fair, we never had any capital or dedicated audience back then bro'.

Jesse



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com
> [mailto:owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com]On Behalf Of
> Tascelt@aol.com
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 8:53 AM
> To: traveller@lists.imagiconline.com
> Subject: Re: Shirt picture favorites? (Was Hats off.....)
>
>
> Damn it Jesse!!  Tim and I have been suggesting shirts to you for
> years and
> NOW your're going to do it?
>
> TAS
>

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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:07:52 -0700
From: "Jesse DeGraff" <fenris@slip.net>
Subject: RE: Traveller-digest V1999 #998

Cool pic Mike!  Man, I was JUST thinking about doing an ocean refueling shot
ala Ref's Companion earlier today!!!  I'd done a seascape with jutting
islands and twin moons for G:S 3rd and thought about setting that shot up
while I had the scene file up, but I did "real-job" work instead ;)  Glad to
see you're continuing in the genre.  Did you re-model the ship, or just
re-texture?  BTW, what 3D package are you useing?

Best,
Jesse



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com
> [mailto:owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com]On Behalf Of Mike
> Linsenmayer
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 10:41 AM
> To: traveller@lists.imagiconline.com
> Subject: Re: Traveller-digest V1999 #998
>
>
>
>
>
> Can someone send me a e-mail if they see this in the post...
> Still having problems posting....
> mlinsenmayer@symantec.com
>
> I have some new artwork.. not good as Jesses though  ;)
>
http://www.bigbailey.com/vspace/art/picture-b.htm

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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:18:34 -0700
From: "Jesse DeGraff" <fenris@slip.net>
Subject: RE: Shirt picture favorites? (Was Hats off.....)

Whoops, there goes the beer into the keyboard!!!
ROFLMAO!!!!
Jesse




> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com
> [mailto:owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com]On Behalf Of Smart, David
> J (David)
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 11:15 AM
> To: 'traveller@mpgn.com'
> Subject: Re: Shirt picture favorites? (Was Hats off.....)
> 
> 
> Tascelt@aol.com posted:
> >
> >Damn it Jesse!!  Tim and I have been suggesting shirts to you 
> for years and
> 
> >NOW your're going to do it?  
> >
> >TAS
> 
> Ah, but *I* made a critical success roll on my Sucking Up skill.
> 
> ;-)
> 
> David
> 

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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:00:48 -0700
From: "Kelly St.Clair" <kellys@efn.org>
Subject: Re: Will the real Strephon please stand up!

On Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:31:51 -0700, Keith Johnson <kejohnson@2xtreme.net>
wrote:

>However, I just picked up Hard Times and read that Strephon refused to be
>tested by IRIS to confirm if he really was the Emperor.  After he refused,
>IRIS publicly stated that "Strephon" wasn't a contender and backed Margaret
>as the highest ranking noble eligible for the Iridium Throne.  Despite the
>fact that IRIS holds no significant power during the Rebellion, it has to
>be PR that is extremely damaging to Strephon's cause.
>
>If he was the real Strephon, why the heck didn't he go along with the test?
> Was this written up anywhere else?

As I recall from my reading of _Survival Margin_, Strephon was a ruler with
an abundance of conscience - perhaps an overabundance.  By the time IRIS
dropped by, he had given up any hope of his faction being able to retake
control of the Imperium and had fallen into despair over the sheer number
of people, HIS PEOPLE, who had died.

He deliberately let himself be thought an imposter so that at least no one
else would die in HIS name.  (There wasn't anything he could do about all
the others.)  As to why he didn't just surrender his faction... perhaps he
felt an Emperor should not surrender, or feared that Lucan et al wouldn't
LET him survive as a threat, and would spend more lives getting to him.

Good-hearted people usually get the short end in wars.


- --------------
Kelly St.Clair   "At last we will reveal our pants to the Jedi.  At last we
kellys@efn.org    will have revenge."

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 01:58:46 +0100
From: Mark Watson <markw@antares.demon.co.uk>
Subject: re: Hard Times

On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, SD Mooney wrote:
>Keith Johnson <kejohnson@2xtreme.net> writes:
>
>>Speaking of Hard Times... eight or nine years after it was released, I
>>finally picked it up.
<snip>
>
>HT is the best ever Traveller supplement and background, IMO. I think that
>it has more of a feeling of hope, of turning back the tide, than TNE did.
<snip again>
>
>I'd rate it up with: High Guard, The Traveller Adventure, Milieu 0
>Campaign, the Regency Sourcebook, and GT: Far Trader. (*)
>
>(*) DGP excluded as we don't talk about that anymore. ;-)
>
I'd agree with Dom's view of HT at least, though not with the rest of his list.
HT is a far more interesting milieu (for me, he says hastily) than TNE. There's
no feeling of material withheld, or being railroaded down a specific plotline.

For the rest of the list:

A huge amount of CT is excellent - all of the books, most of the adventures,
all of the alien modules, and some of the supplements, as well as the material
from FASA, Gamelords and Paranoia Press.

For MT Knightfall is also pretty good (though the most of the best MT material
was published by DGP).

For TNE, um, Regency Sourcebook and, depending how you count it as MT or TNE,
Survival Margin, though it's more of a spin-off novel than a supplement.

It's too early to really evaluate GT against these as yet, I think.
- --
Mark Watson, markw@antares.demon.co.uk

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subscribe traveller-digest local-traveller@your.domain.net

A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to
subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "traveller-digest"
in the commands above with "traveller".

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