Traveller-digest     Tuesday, October 12 1999     Volume 1999 : Number 1198



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The following topics are covered in this digest:

GTL10 5 dTon Utility Shuttle
GTL10 5 dTon Cargo Shuttle
Re: Feudal Technocracy
Don't forget to put your pop digit forward
OT: Resources
RE: Traveller Versions
Re: SEC: UNCLASSIFIED Was Re: GURPS errata now Graffiti
A couple of possible fixes for near-c rocks?
SEC: UNCLASSIFIED Re: Survivor kids (Was: Annic Nova)
Re: Starports in the 21C
GTL11 5 dTon Passenger, Cargo and Utility Shuttles

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:45:41 -0500
From: "Bont" <felix@felixcafe.com>
Subject: GTL10 5 dTon Utility Shuttle

This ship is a combination of the Cargo Shuttle and Passenger 
Shuttle.  It can carry 9 passengers in Normal Seats and more than 2 
dTons of cargo.  It can carry the unbelievable load to and from orbit 
about once an hour.

TL10 5 dTon Utility Shuttle

  Statistics : TL10, HP 1200, PD 4, DR 100, HT 11, Size Mod 6, 
Sealed, 61,141.28 lbs, $ 3,581,164, 2,499.56 cf, 5,356.4 kW 
Used, 5,356.4 kW Produced, 4,000 kW Motive Power, 80,000 lbs 
Motive Thrust, 100,000 lbs Aerostatic Lift, Vehicle Features : 
Computerized Controls, Very Good streamlining

  Components
    - Structure Profile: TL10 Medium Frame Standard Materials 
    - Armor Profile: TL10 DR 100 Standard Metal (TURLFB) 

    Module - Body, Front (PD 4 DR 100), Rear (PD 4 DR 100), Left 
(PD 4 DR 100), Right (PD 4 DR 100), HP 1800, 61,141.28 lbs, $ 
990,664, 2,404.56 cf, 5,356.4 kW Used, 5,356.4 kW Produced, 
4,000 kW Motive Power, 80,000 lbs Motive Thrust, 100,000 lbs 
Aerostatic Lift

    Components
      - Airlock, TL7, HP 100, PD 4, DR 100, 1 Person at a time, 500 
lbs, $ 1,000, 50 cf 
      - Passage Tube, Armored, TL7, HP 75, PD 4, DR 20, 1 100' 
Increments, 2,000 lbs, $ 3,000, 40 cf 
      - Normal Seat, HP 300, PD 4, DR 100, 9 Occupants, 2,070 lbs, 
$ 900, 270 cf Occupied
      - Cargo, HP 800, PD 4, DR 100, 1,015 cf, 20,300 lbs, 1,015 cf 

      Module - Engineering, HP 400, PD 4, DR 100, 9,631.28 lbs, $ 
479,564, 374.05 cf, 4,105 kW Used, 5,356.4 kW Produced

      Components
        - GT Contragrav, TL9, HP 7, PD 4, DR 100, 100,000 lbs Lifts, 
60 lbs, $ 1,000, 1.2 cf, 100 kW Used 
        - GT Vectored Thruster, TL10, HP 250, PD 4, DR 100, 40 
sTons of Thrust, 6,000 lbs, $ 120,000, 240 cf, 4,000 kW Used 
Short Term Access
        - Limited Life Support, TL10, HP 30, PD 4, DR 100, 1 Day, 10 
People, 500 lbs, $ 5,000, 10 cf, 5 kW Used 
        - Fusion Reactor, TL10, HP 150, PD 4, DR 100, 5,356.4 kW, 
3,071.28 lbs, $ 353,564, 122.85 cf, 5,356.4 kW Produced Lasts 
200 years, Short Term Access

      Module - TL10 Cockpit Bridge, HP 200, PD 4, DR 100, 6,240 
lbs, $ 326,200, 174.6 cf, 1,251.4 kW Used

      Components
        - Roomy Crew Station, HP 75, PD 4, DR 100, 1 Crewmen, 240 
lbs, $ 100, 40 cf Occupied
        - Full Fire Suppression, TL7, HP 16, PD 4, DR 100, 200 lbs, $ 
5,000, 4 cf 

        Module - Instruments and Electronics, HP 175, PD 2, DR 2, 
5,800 lbs, $ 321,100, 130.6 cf, 1,251.4 kW Used

        Components
          - Precision Navigation Instruments, TL7, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 1 
Units, 20 lbs, $ 5,000, 0.4 cf 
          - Armor Profile: TL1 DR 2 No Quality No Material (TURLFB) 
          - IFF, TL8, HP 2, PD 2, DR 2, 1 Units, 5 lbs, $ 1,000, 0.1 cf 
          - Flight Recorder, TL8, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 10 lbs, $ 200, 0.5 
cf 
          - VLR Laser Communicator, TL10, HP 18, PD 2, DR 2, 250 
lbs, $ 6,025, 5 cf, 1 kW Used 1,000,000 mi
          - Microframe Computer, TL10, HP 13, PD 2, DR 2, 3 Units, 
150 lbs, $ 30,000, 3 cf, 0.3 kW Used Complexity 6
          - Advanced Radar/Ladar Detector, TL10, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 2 
Units, 30 lbs, $ 3,000, 0.6 cf 
          - Radscanner, TL10, HP 20, PD 2, DR 2, 100 mi, 300 lbs, $ 
275,000, 6 cf Passive IR, Thermograph, Passive Radar, Scan 
Rating 23/29
          - VLR Communicator, TL10, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 25 lbs, $ 625, 
0.5 cf, 0.1 kW Used 500,000 mi, Scrambled
          - Computer Terminal, TL10, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 1 Terminal, 10 
lbs, $ 250, 0.5 cf 

          Module - Sensor Pop Turret, Pop Turret, Full Rotation, Front 
(PD 2 DR 2), Rear (PD 2 DR 2), Left (PD 2 DR 2), Right (PD 2 DR 
2), HP 188, 5,000 lbs, $ 2,590,000, 95 cf, 1,250 kW Used

          Components
            - PESA, TL10, HP 50, PD 2, DR 2, 1,000 mi, 1,000 lbs, $ 
1,200,000, 20 cf Scan Rating 29/35
            - Radar (AESA), TL10, HP 125, PD 2, DR 2, 5,000 mi, 
3,750 lbs, $ 1,375,000, 75 cf, 1,250 kW Used Scan Rating 34/40

  Air Performance : Motive Thrust 80,000 lbs, Stall Speed 0 MPH, 
Top Speed 1,670.5 MPH, aAccel 26.2 MPH/s, aMR 2.5, aSR 5, 
aDecel 10 MPH/s, Take off 0, Landing 0, Lifting Body

  Space Performance : sAcc 1.308 g, sDec 1.308 g, sMR 1.308

- - - -
FELIX (Thomas L Bont)

- - Encrypt your messages!
  That way only the government knows what you wrote!

- - It is truly the wise man that knows what he doesn't!

- - With your shield or on it ... (Old Spartan Blessing)

- - Fidelitas super omnia, honore excepto

- - Help Stop Forest Fires.  Outlaw Matches.

Be sure to visit The FELIX Cafe at
     http://www.felixcafe.com/

- - - -

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:45:41 -0500
From: "Bont" <felix@felixcafe.com>
Subject: GTL10 5 dTon Cargo Shuttle

Taking advantage of higher tech machinery, this little beauty has the 
size and maneuverability to actually fly into a cargo bay for loading 
and unloading.  It can transfer up to the 3 dTons of cargo to and 
from orbit about every 1.5 hours.  Most owner/pilots of this class of 
vessel have removed the Armored Passenger Tube to squeeze 
that extra cargo in.

TL10 5 dTon Cargo Shuttle

  Statistics : TL10, HP 1200, PD 4, DR 100, HT 11, Size Mod 6, 
Sealed, 62,070.38 lbs, $ 3,472,719, 2,494.52 cf, 2,851.9 kW 
Used, 2,851.9 kW Produced, 1,500 kW Motive Power, 30,000 lbs 
Motive Thrust, 100,000 lbs Aerostatic Lift, Vehicle Features : 
Computerized Controls, Very Good streamlining

  Components
    - Structure Profile: TL10 Medium Frame Standard Materials 
    - Armor Profile: TL10 DR 100 Standard Metal (TURLFB) 

    Module - Body, Front (PD 4 DR 100), Rear (PD 4 DR 100), Left 
(PD 4 DR 100), Right (PD 4 DR 100), HP 1800, 62,070.38 lbs, $ 
882,219, 2,399.52 cf, 2,851.9 kW Used, 2,851.9 kW Produced, 
1,500 kW Motive Power, 30,000 lbs Motive Thrust, 100,000 lbs 
Aerostatic Lift

    Components
      - Cargo, HP 800, PD 4, DR 100, 1,500 cf, 30,000 lbs, 1,500 cf 
      - Airlock, TL7, HP 100, PD 4, DR 100, 1 Person at a time, 500 
lbs, $ 1,000, 50 cf 

      Module - TL10 Cockpit Bridge, HP 200, PD 4, DR 100, 6,240 
lbs, $ 326,200, 174.6 cf, 1,251.4 kW Used

      Components
        - Full Fire Suppression, TL7, HP 16, PD 4, DR 100, 200 lbs, $ 
5,000, 4 cf 
        - Roomy Crew Station, HP 75, PD 4, DR 100, 1 Crewmen, 240 
lbs, $ 100, 40 cf Occupied

        Module - Instruments and Electronics, HP 175, PD 2, DR 2, 
5,800 lbs, $ 321,100, 130.6 cf, 1,251.4 kW Used

        Components
          - Precision Navigation Instruments, TL7, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 1 
Units, 20 lbs, $ 5,000, 0.4 cf 
          - Armor Profile: TL1 DR 2 No Quality No Material (TURLFB) 
          - IFF, TL8, HP 2, PD 2, DR 2, 1 Units, 5 lbs, $ 1,000, 0.1 cf 
          - Flight Recorder, TL8, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 10 lbs, $ 200, 0.5 
cf 
          - VLR Laser Communicator, TL10, HP 18, PD 2, DR 2, 250 
lbs, $ 6,025, 5 cf, 1 kW Used 1,000,000 mi
          - Microframe Computer, TL10, HP 13, PD 2, DR 2, 3 Units, 
150 lbs, $ 30,000, 3 cf, 0.3 kW Used Complexity 6
          - Advanced Radar/Ladar Detector, TL10, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 2 
Units, 30 lbs, $ 3,000, 0.6 cf 
          - Radscanner, TL10, HP 20, PD 2, DR 2, 100 mi, 300 lbs, $ 
275,000, 6 cf Passive IR, Thermograph, Passive Radar, Scan 
Rating 23/29
          - VLR Communicator, TL10, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 25 lbs, $ 625, 
0.5 cf, 0.1 kW Used 500,000 mi, Scrambled
          - Computer Terminal, TL10, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 1 Terminal, 10 
lbs, $ 250, 0.5 cf 

          Module - Sensor Pop Turret, Pop Turret, Full Rotation, Front 
(PD 2 DR 2), Rear (PD 2 DR 2), Left (PD 2 DR 2), Right (PD 2 DR 
2), HP 188, 5,000 lbs, $ 2,590,000, 95 cf, 1,250 kW Used

          Components
            - PESA, TL10, HP 50, PD 2, DR 2, 1,000 mi, 1,000 lbs, $ 
1,200,000, 20 cf Scan Rating 29/35
            - Radar (AESA), TL10, HP 125, PD 2, DR 2, 5,000 mi, 
3,750 lbs, $ 1,375,000, 75 cf, 1,250 kW Used Scan Rating 34/40

      Module - Engineering, HP 250, PD 4, DR 100, 4,930.38 lbs, $ 
375,019, 195.02 cf, 1,600.5 kW Used, 2,851.9 kW Produced

      Components
        - GT Contragrav, TL9, HP 7, PD 4, DR 100, 100,000 lbs Lifts, 
60 lbs, $ 1,000, 1.2 cf, 100 kW Used 
        - Limited Life Support, TL10, HP 6, PD 4, DR 100, 1 Day, 1 
Person, 50 lbs, $ 500, 1 cf, 0.5 kW Used 
        - GT Vectored Thruster, TL10, HP 125, PD 4, DR 100, 15 
sTons of Thrust, 2,250 lbs, $ 45,000, 90 cf, 1,500 kW Used Short 
Term Access
        - Fusion Reactor, TL10, HP 150, PD 4, DR 100, 2,851.9 kW, 
2,570.38 lbs, $ 328,519, 102.82 cf, 2,851.9 kW Produced Lasts 
200 years, Short Term Access

  Air Performance : Motive Thrust 30,000 lbs, Stall Speed 0 MPH, 
Top Speed 1,023 MPH, aAccel 9.7 MPH/s, aMR 2.5, aSR 5, 
aDecel 10 MPH/s, Take off 0, Landing 0, Lifting Body

  Space Performance : sAcc 0.483 g, sDec 0.483 g, sMR 0.483

- - - -
FELIX (Thomas L Bont)

- - Encrypt your messages!
  That way only the government knows what you wrote!

- - It is truly the wise man that knows what he doesn't!

- - With your shield or on it ... (Old Spartan Blessing)

- - Fidelitas super omnia, honore excepto

- - Help Stop Forest Fires.  Outlaw Matches.

Be sure to visit The FELIX Cafe at
     http://www.felixcafe.com/

- - - -

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 18:45:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Charles Collin <charles@hebb.psych.mcgill.ca>
Subject: Re: Feudal Technocracy

Wow!  You folks certainly had a busy weekend.  I leave for three days and
I've got twenty-odd digests of messages to wade through.  Haven't finished
them all, so apologies for any rehash, but...

I think the idea that Feudal technocracy is a more limited government type
than others is a result of misunderstanding what it means.  It's not
simply a feudal system (that's type 3: Self-perpetuating oligarchy, IIRC &
IMHO), nor is it necessarily government by "hi techs" of "lo techs".
Remember that "techonology" covers alot of ground.  Spears are technology,
writing is technology, and food preperation is too.  

IMO, ft was placed on the table as a bow to certain ancient asian cultures
which are often labelled as technocracies but which had a feudal element. 
In these cultures one could gain government positions by passing tests. 
Anyone could theoretically apply, down to the lowliest peasant, and the
person with the best "test score" got the position.  In this sense, an ft
is a government by those with know-how.  This can apply to a broad range
of things including the example just given as well as the TEDs of TNE,
certain forms of beaurocracy or corporate government and so on (yes these
overlap with other government types, but so do they all).  The Feudal part
is really just referring to a heirarchical system with allegiances running
up and down.

All IMHO,

Chalres C.

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 23:19:49 +0100
From: John Buston <John.Buston@tesco.net>
Subject: Don't forget to put your pop digit forward

The UN says the 12th October is the day when Earths population officially
reaches the 6 billion mark. Time for scouts everywhere to update their library
data. In fact better add another one or two so the data is still accurate by the
time the data reaches core...

ObTrav: Better add another column to the UWP to account for percentage
population growth or shrinkage per year and add the date of the last survey.
Hmm, that might lead to more accurate UWPs and that wouldn't be Traveller would
it? :-)

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:39:18 +1000
From: dadams@parracity.nsw.gov.au
Subject: OT: Resources

>EBADSEMANTICS - you're thinking of "Traveller _as_a_ resource".
>Funny sort of "exploitation" when _Traveller_ is what's
>benefiting...

I am an Australian. I see land  and want to either run sheep on it or rip it
open for mining. Apparently there is a huge tin deposit under St Mary's
cathedral in Sydney, I would not be supprised if the Catholic church gets
lobbied to allow mining under the most important catholic church in
Asutralia....

Darryl

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:07:11 -0700
From: "David P. Summers" <summers@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: RE: Traveller Versions

Tue, 12 Oct 1999 19:50:13 +0100, SD Mooney <dom@cybergoths.u-net.com>
>>>It *does* have the success roll for
>>>resolving task issues
>>Which is what mostly rpg circles would call a tasks system.

>And what most RPG people I would know would call a 'skill roll' or a
>'success roll' or a 'skill test'.

I'm actually not going by just people I know,  but by the terminology
used in discussing the theory of game design on newgroups and other
forums.

>>>, but this has nothing to equate to the shifting
>>>difficulty levels that Traveller editions have.
>>Sure it does...
>
>Please can you elaborate and state where in GURPS Basic there is defined a
>common (ie across all skills and situations) set of TN modifiers which
>relate to the difficulty of the task.

Well, lets see, someone behind partial cover is a -2 to hit.  Shooting
while on the move is -4 to hit.  Etc.  (there are as I recall as I
don't have Basic in from of me).

>For example, using a vac suit to manuever across a brightly light room with
>stable gravity against using a vac suit to manuever across a room with
>fluctuating gravity and strobing lights. Both would have the same Target
>Number on 3D6 using GURPS unless the GM improvised or found something in a
>skill description or combat section to use.

Exactly where is the difficulty to do this described in MT?

>No. There is no common system for rating difficulty or modifiers across all
>task situations in GURPS Basic that I can see. This is important to a lot
>of people I know.

Yes there is.  Bad footing is a -2 to rolls across all task situations.
Just as is might be a "difficult" taskin MT.  The _only_ difference is the
table of verbal labels given to the labels.
______________________________
summers@alum.mit.edu
(This is the net.  My e-mail address may be in Boston, but I'm in California.)

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 23:06:19 GMT
From: j_pete@bellsouth.net (Pete)
Subject: Re: SEC: UNCLASSIFIED Was Re: GURPS errata now Graffiti

On Tue, 12 Oct 1999 01:11:35 -0700, "Benyamene' ZeAbe' Akella"
<xrp@sierratel.com> wrote:

>> 'I AM THE ANGLE OF DEATH'
>
>I wonder how many degrees that would be?

I would guess less than 90. I picture death as being more acute than
obtuse. ;-)

================================================================================
- - Pete                                                      j_pete@bellsouth.net

"'Need' now means wanting someone else's money.
'Greed' means wanting to keep your own.
'Compassion' is when a politician arranges the transfer."
                                     -Joseph Sobran

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 19:22:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Charles Collin <charles@hebb.psych.mcgill.ca>
Subject: A couple of possible fixes for near-c rocks?

Here are a couple of possible solutions to the "Fermi paradox" of near-c
rocks ("where are they (in canon)?" :-).  I offer them up for your
nit-picking destruction...

1. Political reasons.  This has already been discussed and could explain a
relative _rarity_ of such incidents, but not a total absence.  Treaties,
Geneva conventions and the like could explain away regular use of killer
rocks, but we should still see them during the Long Night and in the Vargr
Extents.  I don't think it would damage canon much to say that a few such
incidences have occurred.  Perhaps their lack of mention is part of an
Imperial information suppression?

2. Practical reasons.  One thing I implement IMTU is _highly_ visible jump
flashes on entry combined with a randomization of vector on exit.  This
means you can't "jump in" your rock at near-c with any real chance of
hitting the target (you're at less than 1/million assuming you come in at
the 100 diameter limit). If you jump it in somewhere in the outer system
and accelerate it from there, you'll be seen far enough out for the locals
to launch counter measures.  You _can_ stop/deflect a near-c rock, you
just have to do it _really_ far out from the target.  Of course, there's
always some limit beyond which the locals won't be able to detect your
preparations, but when it takes a month or two for the rock to get there,
the weapon becomes less useful (your policies may have changed over the
course of that much time and all your effort will be wasted).

Between those two, I think it's not too much of a stretch to imagine a
Traveller universe relatively devoid of near-c rock attacks.  You _can_ do
it, but everyone will hate you, and anyway it's not _that_ easy to do.

Charles C, 
(veteran of many previous near-c rock wars, sock it to me, I can take it!)

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:54:04 +1000
From: "Hughes, Michael" <Michael.Hughes@cbr.defence.gov.au>
Subject: SEC: UNCLASSIFIED Re: Survivor kids (Was: Annic Nova)

The info I've encountered suggestion that the 99% figure is closer. But
*only* if that's how the kid is getting most of his food. 
In modern, "civilized" cultures, that rarely happens. And thanks to the
*idiots* marketing formula to third world countries, it rarely holds there.
Matter of fact the introduction of infant formula to third world nations has
*two* dramatic effects. First, it increases the frequency of pregnancies,
thus increasing the birth rate. Second,it increases the infant mortality
weight and frequency of infant malnutrition. That's because it's so
expensive that the mothers dilute it. 
ObTrav: Introducing "better" technology often *hurts* the cultures it's
introduced to.

- - -- 
Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow)
 shadow@krypton.rain.com <mailto:shadow@krypton.rain.com>
<--preferred
leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com <mailto:leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com>
<--last resort


The leftie community of Oz is particularly outraged at a certain corporation
for marketing formula to such countries due, in addition to above, to the
fact that it is often mixed with disease ridden water (RE dysentery) which
of course then infects the kiddies.

Ob RL: Big corporations will do anything to make a buck, even if it kills
their client base in the process, then spend an incredible amount of effort
to cover their tracks - RE tobacco companies. Indeed, to the extent where
they get a candidate for the rulership of the most powerful country in the
world to state that they don't believe the product is harmful when it so
very clearly is.

Ob Trav; PCs are approached by a corporate trouble shooter to 'reduce' the
concerns of a well informed populace (Tech 8+, Govt 4) over the activities
of a company in a neighboring low tech world. The suitcase of credits
clearly implies that any and all tactics are acceptable provided they cannot
be linked back to the corporation.


Michael 

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 23:23:52 GMT
From: j_pete@bellsouth.net (Pete)
Subject: Re: Starports in the 21C

>Leonard Erickson wrote:
>> 
>
>> Interesting data point. The Chinese use *oak* for such disposable heat
>> shields.
>

It sure would be handy if the K'kree used mesquite for disposable heat
shields. ;-) Yummy!



================================================================================
- - Pete                                                      j_pete@bellsouth.net

"'Need' now means wanting someone else's money.
'Greed' means wanting to keep your own.
'Compassion' is when a politician arranges the transfer."
                                     -Joseph Sobran

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 18:49:45 -0500
From: "Bont" <felix@felixcafe.com>
Subject: GTL11 5 dTon Passenger, Cargo and Utility Shuttles

There isn't a whole of difference between the TL10 and the TL11 
versions.  The TL11 versions are a bit more expensive, but they are 
faster and can carry a few extra passengers.  You might find some 
older TL11 versions of this design at some TL12 starports.

TL11 5 dTon Utility Shuttle

  Statistics : TL11, HP 1200, PD 4, DR 100, HT 12, Size Mod 6, 
Sealed, 50,983.08 lbs, $ 3,849,364.5, 2,499.28 cf, 3,452.9 kW 
Used, 3,452.9 kW Produced, 1,600 kW Motive Power, 80,000 lbs 
Motive Thrust, 100,000 lbs Aerostatic Lift, Vehicle Features : 
Computerized Controls, Very Good streamlining

  Components
    - Structure Profile: TL11 Medium Frame Standard Materials 
    - Armor Profile: TL11 DR 100 Standard Metal (TURLFB) 

    Module - Body, Front (PD 4 DR 100), Rear (PD 4 DR 100), Left 
(PD 4 DR 100), Right (PD 4 DR 100), HP 1800, 50,983.08 lbs, $ 
1,896,364.5, 2,426.78 cf, 3,452.9 kW Used, 3,452.9 kW Produced, 
1,600 kW Motive Power, 80,000 lbs Motive Thrust, 100,000 lbs 
Aerostatic Lift

    Components
      - Airlock, TL7, HP 150, PD 4, DR 100, 2 People at a time, 1,000 
lbs, $ 2,000, 100 cf 
      - Passage Tube, Armored, TL7, HP 75, PD 4, DR 20, 1 100' 
Increments, 2,000 lbs, $ 3,000, 40 cf 
      - Normal Seat, HP 400, PD 4, DR 100, 14 Occupants, 3,220 
lbs, $ 1,400, 420 cf Occupied
      - Cargo, HP 800, PD 4, DR 100, 1,008 cf, 20,160 lbs, 1,008 cf 

      Module - Engineering, HP 250, PD 4, DR 100, 5,450.58 lbs, $ 
515,764.5, 219.82 cf, 1,701.5 kW Used, 3,452.9 kW Produced

      Components
        - GT Contragrav, TL9, HP 7, PD 4, DR 100, 100,000 lbs Lift, 
60 lbs, $ 1,000, 1.2 cf, 100 kW Used 
        - GT Thruster, TL11, HP 150, PD 4, DR 100, 40 sTons of 
Thrust, 2,400 lbs, $ 240,000, 96 cf, 1,600 kW Used Vectored, 
Short Term Access
        - Full Life Support, TL11, HP 40, PD 4, DR 100, 15 People, 
300 lbs, $ 7,500, 15 cf, 1.5 kW Used 
        - Fusion Reactor, TL11, HP 150, PD 4, DR 100, 3,452.9 kW, 
2,690.58 lbs, $ 267,264.5, 107.62 cf, 3,452.9 kW Produced Lasts 
200 years, Short Term Access

      Module - TL11 Cockpit Bridge, HP 175, PD 4, DR 100, 5,352.5 
lbs, $ 1,206,200, 153.6 cf, 1,751.4 kW Used

      Components
        - Full Fire Suppression, TL7, HP 16, PD 4, DR 100, 200 lbs, $ 
5,000, 4 cf 
        - Roomy Crew Station, HP 75, PD 4, DR 100, 1 Crewmen, 240 
lbs, $ 100, 40 cf Occupied

        Module - Instruments and Electronics, HP 150, PD 2, DR 2, 
4,912.5 lbs, $ 1,201,100, 109.6 cf, 1,751.4 kW Used

        Components
          - Precision Navigation Instruments, TL7, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 1 
Units, 20 lbs, $ 5,000, 0.4 cf 
          - Armor Profile: TL1 DR 2 No Quality No Material (TURLFB) 
          - IFF, TL8, HP 2, PD 2, DR 2, 1 Units, 5 lbs, $ 1,000, 0.1 cf 
          - Flight Recorder, TL8, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 10 lbs, $ 200, 0.5 
cf 
          - Advanced Radar/Ladar Detector, TL10, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 2 
Units, 30 lbs, $ 3,000, 0.6 cf 
          - VLR Communicator, TL10, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 25 lbs, $ 625, 
0.5 cf, 0.1 kW Used 500,000 mi, Scrambled
          - Computer Terminal, TL10, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 1 Terminal, 10 
lbs, $ 250, 0.5 cf 
          - VLR Laser Communicator, TL10, HP 18, PD 2, DR 2, 250 
lbs, $ 6,025, 5 cf, 1 kW Used 1,000,000 mi, Scrambler
          - Radscanner, TL10, HP 40, PD 2, DR 2, 200 mi, 600 lbs, $ 
1,155,000, 12 cf Passive IR, Thermograph, Passive Radar, Scan 
Rating 23/29
          - Microframe Computer, TL10, HP 13, PD 2, DR 2, 3 Units, 
150 lbs, $ 30,000, 3 cf, 0.3 kW Used Complexity 7

          Module - Sensor Pop Turret, Pop Turret, Full Rotation, Front 
(PD 2 DR 2), Rear (PD 2 DR 2), Left (PD 2 DR 2), Right (PD 2 DR 
2), HP 188, 3,812.5 lbs, $ 1,952,500, 72.5 cf, 1,750 kW Used

          Components
            - PESA, TL11, HP 50, PD 2, DR 2, 2,000 mi, 1,000 lbs, $ 
1,000,000, 20 cf 
            - Radar (AESA), TL11, HP 100, PD 2, DR 2, 7,000 mi, 
2,625 lbs, $ 937,500, 52.5 cf, 1,750 kW Used 

  Air Performance : Motive Thrust 80,000 lbs, Stall Speed 0 MPH, 
Top Speed 1,670.5 MPH, aAccel 31.4 MPH/s, aMR 3, aSR 5, 
aDecel 12 MPH/s, Take off 0, Landing 0, Lifting Body

  Space Performance : sAcc 1.569 g, sDec 1.569 g, sMR 1.569

TL11 5 dTon Cargo Shuttle

  Statistics : TL11, HP 1200, PD 4, DR 100, HT 11, Size Mod 6, 
Sealed, 55,502.8 lbs, $ 3,898,957.5, 2,493.27 cf, 3,851.5 kW 
Used, 3,851.5 kW Produced, 2,000 kW Motive Power, 100,000 lbs 
Motive Thrust, 100,000 lbs Aerostatic Lift, Vehicle Features : 
Computerized Controls, Very Good streamlining

  Components
    - Structure Profile: TL11 Medium Frame Standard Materials 
    - Armor Profile: TL11 DR 100 Standard Metal (TURLFB) 

    Module - Body, Front (PD 4 DR 100), Rear (PD 4 DR 100), Left 
(PD 4 DR 100), Right (PD 4 DR 100), HP 1800, 55,502.8 lbs, $ 
1,945,957.5, 2,420.77 cf, 3,851.5 kW Used, 3,851.5 kW Produced, 
2,000 kW Motive Power, 100,000 lbs Motive Thrust, 100,000 lbs 
Aerostatic Lift

    Components
      - Airlock, TL7, HP 100, PD 4, DR 100, 1 Person at a time, 500 
lbs, $ 1,000, 50 cf 
      - Cargo, HP 800, PD 4, DR 100, 1,500 cf, 30,000 lbs, 1,500 cf 

      Module - Engineering, HP 250, PD 4, DR 100, 5,850.3 lbs, $ 
570,757.5, 233.01 cf, 2,100.1 kW Used, 3,851.5 kW Produced

      Components
        - GT Contragrav, TL9, HP 7, PD 4, DR 100, 100,000 lbs Lift, 
60 lbs, $ 1,000, 1.2 cf, 100 kW Used 
        - Full Life Support, TL11, HP 6, PD 4, DR 100, 1 People, 20 
lbs, $ 500, 1 cf, 0.1 kW Used 
        - Fusion Reactor, TL11, HP 150, PD 4, DR 100, 3,851.5 kW, 
2,770.3 lbs, $ 269,257.5, 110.81 cf, 3,851.5 kW Produced Lasts 
200 years, Short Term Access
        - GT Thruster, TL11, HP 150, PD 4, DR 100, 50 sTons of 
Thrust, 3,000 lbs, $ 300,000, 120 cf, 2,000 kW Used Vectored, 
Short Term Access

      Module - TL11 Cockpit Bridge, HP 175, PD 4, DR 100, 5,352.5 
lbs, $ 1,206,200, 153.6 cf, 1,751.4 kW Used

      Components
        - Full Fire Suppression, TL7, HP 16, PD 4, DR 100, 200 lbs, $ 
5,000, 4 cf 
        - Roomy Crew Station, HP 75, PD 4, DR 100, 1 Crewmen, 240 
lbs, $ 100, 40 cf Occupied

        Module - Instruments and Electronics, HP 150, PD 2, DR 2, 
4,912.5 lbs, $ 1,201,100, 109.6 cf, 1,751.4 kW Used

        Components
          - Precision Navigation Instruments, TL7, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 1 
Units, 20 lbs, $ 5,000, 0.4 cf 
          - Armor Profile: TL1 DR 2 No Quality No Material (TURLFB) 
          - IFF, TL8, HP 2, PD 2, DR 2, 1 Units, 5 lbs, $ 1,000, 0.1 cf 
          - Flight Recorder, TL8, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 10 lbs, $ 200, 0.5 
cf 
          - Advanced Radar/Ladar Detector, TL10, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 2 
Units, 30 lbs, $ 3,000, 0.6 cf 
          - VLR Communicator, TL10, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 25 lbs, $ 625, 
0.5 cf, 0.1 kW Used 500,000 mi, Scrambled
          - Computer Terminal, TL10, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 1 Terminal, 10 
lbs, $ 250, 0.5 cf 
          - VLR Laser Communicator, TL10, HP 18, PD 2, DR 2, 250 
lbs, $ 6,025, 5 cf, 1 kW Used 1,000,000 mi, Scrambler
          - Radscanner, TL10, HP 40, PD 2, DR 2, 200 mi, 600 lbs, $ 
1,155,000, 12 cf Passive IR, Thermograph, Passive Radar, Scan 
Rating 23/29
          - Microframe Computer, TL10, HP 13, PD 2, DR 2, 3 Units, 
150 lbs, $ 30,000, 3 cf, 0.3 kW Used Complexity 7

          Module - Sensor Pop Turret, Pop Turret, Full Rotation, Front 
(PD 2 DR 2), Rear (PD 2 DR 2), Left (PD 2 DR 2), Right (PD 2 DR 
2), HP 188, 3,812.5 lbs, $ 1,952,500, 72.5 cf, 1,750 kW Used

          Components
            - PESA, TL11, HP 50, PD 2, DR 2, 2,000 mi, 1,000 lbs, $ 
1,000,000, 20 cf 
            - Radar (AESA), TL11, HP 100, PD 2, DR 2, 7,000 mi, 
2,625 lbs, $ 937,500, 52.5 cf, 1,750 kW Used 

  Air Performance : Motive Thrust 100,000 lbs, Stall Speed 0 MPH, 
Top Speed 1,867.7 MPH, aAccel 36 MPH/s, aMR 3, aSR 5, aDecel 
12 MPH/s, Take off 0, Landing 0, Lifting Body

  Space Performance : sAcc 1.802 g, sDec 1.802 g, sMR 1.802

TL11 5 dTon Passenger Shuttle

  Statistics : TL11, HP 1200, PD 4, DR 100, HT 12, Size Mod 6, 
Sealed, 41,223.6 lbs, $ 3,802,977.5, 2,499.06 cf, 3,055.5 kW 
Used, 3,055.5 kW Produced, 1,200 kW Motive Power, 60,000 lbs 
Motive Thrust, 100,000 lbs Aerostatic Lift, Vehicle Features : 
Computerized Controls, Very Good streamlining

  Components
    - Structure Profile: TL11 Medium Frame Standard Materials 
    - Armor Profile: TL11 DR 100 Standard Metal (TURLFB) 

    Module - Body, Front (PD 4 DR 100), Rear (PD 4 DR 100), Left 
(PD 4 DR 100), Right (PD 4 DR 100), HP 1800, 41,223.6 lbs, $ 
1,849,977.5, 2,426.56 cf, 3,055.5 kW Used, 3,055.5 kW Produced, 
1,200 kW Motive Power, 60,000 lbs Motive Thrust, 100,000 lbs 
Aerostatic Lift

    Components
      - Airlock, TL7, HP 150, PD 4, DR 100, 2 Person at a time, 1,000 
lbs, $ 2,000, 100 cf 
      - Passage Tube, Armored, TL7, HP 75, PD 4, DR 20, 1 100' 
Increments, 2,000 lbs, $ 3,000, 40 cf 
      - Normal Seat, HP 800, PD 4, DR 100, 40 Occupants, 9,200 
lbs, $ 4,000, 1,200 cf Occupied
      - Cargo, HP 250, PD 4, DR 100, 229 cf, 4,580 lbs, 229 cf 

      Module - Engineering, HP 250, PD 4, DR 100, 5,291.1 lbs, $ 
466,777.5, 218.64 cf, 1,304.1 kW Used, 3,055.5 kW Produced

      Components
        - GT Contragrav, TL9, HP 7, PD 4, DR 100, 100,000 lbs Lift, 
60 lbs, $ 1,000, 1.2 cf, 100 kW Used 
        - GT Thruster, TL11, HP 125, PD 4, DR 100, 30 sTons of 
Thrust, 1,800 lbs, $ 180,000, 72 cf, 1,200 kW Used Vectored, 
Short Term Access
        - Full Life Support, TL11, HP 75, PD 4, DR 100, 41 People, 
820 lbs, $ 20,500, 41 cf, 4.1 kW Used 
        - Fusion Reactor, TL11, HP 150, PD 4, DR 100, 3,055.5 kW, 
2,611.1 lbs, $ 265,277.5, 104.44 cf, 3,055.5 kW Produced Lasts 
200 years, Short Term Access

      Module - TL11 Cockpit Bridge, HP 175, PD 4, DR 100, 5,352.5 
lbs, $ 1,206,200, 153.6 cf, 1,751.4 kW Used

      Components
        - Full Fire Suppression, TL7, HP 16, PD 4, DR 100, 200 lbs, $ 
5,000, 4 cf 
        - Roomy Crew Station, HP 75, PD 4, DR 100, 1 Crewmen, 240 
lbs, $ 100, 40 cf Occupied

        Module - Instruments and Electronics, HP 150, PD 2, DR 2, 
4,912.5 lbs, $ 1,201,100, 109.6 cf, 1,751.4 kW Used

        Components
          - Precision Navigation Instruments, TL7, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 1 
Units, 20 lbs, $ 5,000, 0.4 cf 
          - Armor Profile: TL1 DR 2 No Quality No Material (TURLFB) 
          - IFF, TL8, HP 2, PD 2, DR 2, 1 Units, 5 lbs, $ 1,000, 0.1 cf 
          - Flight Recorder, TL8, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 10 lbs, $ 200, 0.5 
cf 
          - Advanced Radar/Ladar Detector, TL10, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 2 
Units, 30 lbs, $ 3,000, 0.6 cf 
          - VLR Communicator, TL10, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 25 lbs, $ 625, 
0.5 cf, 0.1 kW Used 500,000 mi, Scrambled
          - Computer Terminal, TL10, HP 4, PD 2, DR 2, 1 Terminal, 10 
lbs, $ 250, 0.5 cf 
          - VLR Laser Communicator, TL10, HP 18, PD 2, DR 2, 250 
lbs, $ 6,025, 5 cf, 1 kW Used 1,000,000 mi, Scrambler
          - Radscanner, TL10, HP 40, PD 2, DR 2, 200 mi, 600 lbs, $ 
1,155,000, 12 cf Passive IR, Thermograph, Passive Radar, Scan 
Rating 23/29
          - Microframe Computer, TL10, HP 13, PD 2, DR 2, 3 Units, 
150 lbs, $ 30,000, 3 cf, 0.3 kW Used Complexity 7

          Module - Sensor Pop Turret, Pop Turret, Full Rotation, Front 
(PD 2 DR 2), Rear (PD 2 DR 2), Left (PD 2 DR 2), Right (PD 2 DR 
2), HP 188, 3,812.5 lbs, $ 1,952,500, 72.5 cf, 1,750 kW Used

          Components
            - PESA, TL11, HP 50, PD 2, DR 2, 2,000 mi, 1,000 lbs, $ 
1,000,000, 20 cf 
            - Radar (AESA), TL11, HP 100, PD 2, DR 2, 7,000 mi, 
2,625 lbs, $ 937,500, 52.5 cf, 1,750 kW Used 

  Air Performance : Motive Thrust 60,000 lbs, Stall Speed 0 MPH, 
Top Speed 1,446.7 MPH, aAccel 29.1 MPH/s, aMR 3, aSR 5, 
aDecel 12 MPH/s, Take off 0, Landing 0, Lifting Body

  Space Performance : sAcc 1.455 g, sDec 1.455 g, sMR 1.455

- - - -
FELIX (Thomas L Bont)

- - Encrypt your messages!
  That way only the government knows what you wrote!

- - It is truly the wise man that knows what he doesn't!

- - With your shield or on it ... (Old Spartan Blessing)

- - Fidelitas super omnia, honore excepto

- - Help Stop Forest Fires.  Outlaw Matches.

Be sure to visit The FELIX Cafe at
     http://www.felixcafe.com/

- - - -

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