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Traveller-digest Monday, November 1 1999 Volume 1999 : Number 1289
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The following topics are covered in this digest:
Re: Alien Protest Forms (was: [OT] One Day In Peace 2)
Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up
Re: Protest in the 3I, was a dead horse spot called Re: One Day In Peace 2
Rampant Sitcoms in the Street (was: Re: [OT] One Day Of Peace)
Re: Alien Protest Forms (was: [OT] One Day In Peace 2)
Idea for honouring J. Andrew Keith.
K'kree humour
Re: [OT] One Day In Peace
Re: Interactive fiction
Re: [OT] Cultural Differences
Re: One Day In Peace 2
Re: Alien Protest Forms (was: [OT] One Day In Peace 2)
Re: opengl95.exe
Re: [OT] One Day Of Peace
Re: Alderson Drives and the MiGE Universe (was Re: Traveller: Aberrant jump drives (was Re: Just say "no" to lhyd))
Re: [OT] One Day In Peace 2
Re: Critical Mass
Re: Traveller-digest V1999 #1281
Announcement - TravShorts
Re: Alien Protest Forms (was: [OT] One Day In Peace 2)
RE: Paying for health care
Re: [OT] One Day Of Peace
Re: Paying for health care
Re: Where the heck is Scangen?
Re: Alien Protest Forms (was: [OT] One Day In Peace 2)
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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:46:22 PST
From: shadow@krypton.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Subject: Re: Alien Protest Forms (was: [OT] One Day In Peace 2)
In mail you write:
> Zhondani -> No. Those who are unhappy are "helped" before it ever comes to
> that.
Only if you accept the "evil, mind-raping Zho scum" stereotype. It's
also possible that the discontent that would lead to protests is noted
in the earlist stages, and the *problem* is dealt with.
In some cases, the problem is a matter of perception, or can't readily
be solved. In which case various sorts of counseling and support are
available. And it may even be possible that it would be judged that a
peaceful protest would be the best way for the proles to deal with
their feelings about the unfixable problem.
- --
Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow)
shadow@krypton.rain.com <--preferred
leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com <--last resort
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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:31:04 -0600
From: "Andrew Akins"
Subject: Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up
Brian A. Howard wrote:
> Nicely done drawings and 3D art. What software did you use for the deck
> plans? The 3D model?
For the deckplans, Corel Draw. For the 3D models, Lightwave.
Thanks for the compliments.
Andy Akins
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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:45:56 -0600
From: Black ICE
Subject: Re: Protest in the 3I, was a dead horse spot called Re: One Day In Peace 2
Bruce Johnson wrote:
>
<>
>
> The Solomani protest with tanks and fixed bayonets...oops! I'm sorry, that's
> the Solomani _response_ to protests...
Sure, but only Impy-Sympies would protest anything in the
Confederation.... ;-)
- --
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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:05:58 -0600
From: Black ICE
Subject: Rampant Sitcoms in the Street (was: Re: [OT] One Day Of Peace)
Bruce Johnson wrote:
>
> Chris Seamans wrote:
>
> > Apart from that, I don't really care. I don't buy the "cause and effect" of
> > violent movies and television on people. If it were, I would most likely be
> > a bloodthirsty bastard who would make Hannibal the Cannibal look like Mary
> > Poppins.
>
> As Dick Cavett put it so eloquently many years ago, "If violence in TV and
> movies causes violence in the world, how come we don't see random acts of
> situation comedy breaking out on the streets?"
But they _do_. Who among you has _not_ looked out on some aspect of the
world around you and thought, "This would make a _hilarious_ TV
sitcom!"?
I didn't think so.
ObTrav: Two things occur to me:
1. Do the various subraces of humaniti find the same kinds of things
funny? I don't mean "Do they find the same jokes funny?". I wouldn't
expect a Vilani to laugh at a Solomani joke about hidebound traditions,
for instance. However, like it or not, ethnic humor is deeply ingrained
in the Terran psyche. Do Zhodani tell "chaotic Solomani" jokes? Are
pratfalls a constant in human comedy? Do Vilani make puns?
2. Is humor (in whatever form) a universal concept among sentient
species, or are there races in the OTU that simply don't find _anything_
funny? (I suspect that humor is an inevitable companion of sentience.
After all, even the SDG chips had something that could be construed as a
sense of humor [the Deo/Deyo segment in _Survival Margin_]....)
If humor _is_ inextricably linked to sentience, what kinds of humor
appeal to what races in the OTU?
- --
AuricTech Shipyards Journeyman Gearhead
"Gold-Plated [tm] solutions for copper-plated problems!" (r)
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/9776
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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 00:39:43 -0500
From: Juliean Galak
Subject: Re: Alien Protest Forms (was: [OT] One Day In Peace 2)
At 06:46 PM 10/31/99 -0800, you wrote:
>In mail you write:
>
> > Zhondani -> No. Those who are unhappy are "helped" before it ever comes to
> > that.
>
>Only if you accept the "evil, mind-raping Zho scum" stereotype. It's
>also possible that the discontent that would lead to protests is noted
>in the earlist stages, and the *problem* is dealt with.
>
>In some cases, the problem is a matter of perception, or can't readily
>be solved. In which case various sorts of counseling and support are
>available. And it may even be possible that it would be judged that a
>peaceful protest would be the best way for the proles to deal with
>their feelings about the unfixable problem.
Only if you accept the "nice caring utopian Zho superbeings" stereotype. :)
-- Juliean Galak (a.k.a. Falcon)
- --
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defend to the death your right to say it."
-- Francois Marie Voltaire
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-- Albert Einstein
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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 17:57:43 +1300
From: "Andrew Moffatt-Vallance"
Subject: Idea for honouring J. Andrew Keith.
I was mulling this over today and I came up with another idea. Up till now
the name of the Terran ship that made first contact with Vilani has been
given as the Starleaper I. As far as I can tell this name only appears in DGP
material, which puts it very firmly into the forbidden canon and GT Solomani
Rim is comming up which to me seems like the ideal time to fix this and
give JA Keith a fitting tribute in canon.
Andrew etc
Homepage http://users.netaccess.co.nz/amv/
Traveller http://www.downport.com/amv/
"What do you expect from a species who's females are
always in heat" Ko of the Ilui clan on Humans and honour
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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:00:43 -0800
From: shudson@lightspeed.bc.ca (Steven Hudson)
Subject: K'kree humour
>From: "Kiri Aradia Morgan"
...
>Aslan even have demonstrations? Do the K'Kree throw paint on old ladies in
furs?
Or politely inquire as to how they have so much left of a carnivore after
shooting it. You mean you _don't_ use high energy weapons?!
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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:16:30 -0700
From: cos 90
Subject: Re: [OT] One Day In Peace
>> Okay, how about an example closer to home? Canadians watch the same
>> violent TV and movies that Americans do. Canada's level of social control
>> is for the most part the same as what one finds in the USA. On the other
>> hand, Canada's violent crime rate is a small fraction of the USA's.
>
>Yes, it's obvious that our attempts to destroy Canadian society and turn
>it into a shadow of the United States have met with repeated failure.
>Our scientists continue to study methods of dealing with the Menace of
>the North.
The reason for your repeated failure is that we Canadians are actually,
secretly in control of your giant propaganda machine known as the
"entertainment industry". Haven't you ever seen that bit of epic exposé
journalism, "The Canadian Consipracy"? :)
Glenn St-Germain § Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
cos90@powersurfr.com § http://plaza.powersurfr.com/glenn
"There is no longer any normal to be"
-- Gary Numan
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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 00:20:47 -0500
From: Rob Brady
Subject: Re: Interactive fiction
At 09:17 PM 10/30/99 -0800, Leonard Erickson wrote:
>In mail you write:
>
> > If anyone out there remembers the old days of "interactive fiction,"
> > (Adventure, Zork, etc), I have finished the logic for an IF walkthrough
>
>I wonder if you could turn this interactive scout ship into a web page?
You might want to look at http://www.pond.com/~russotto/zplet/ifol.html
This is the home page of the zplet applet, an infocom interpreter written
in java. If you can get russotto to let you use the zplet on your own page,
you could have any inform written code you want on a web page. Of course,
I'll probably end up doing this by default.
- --
Add a completely new dimension to science fiction adventure with
Robots.
Rob Brady robb at datatone dot com
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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:30:03 +1300
From: "Mike Smith"
Subject: Re: [OT] Cultural Differences
Good piece of acting, though, you've gotta admit
Mike.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Rupert Boleyn
To:
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] Cultural Differences
> On 30 Oct 99, at 12:50, Kiri Aradia Morgan wrote:
>
> > I think there's a high level of social control in AMERICA. Total
> > strangers will come up to you and tell you that you shouldn't smoke,
> > you're too fat to eat this or that, God help you if you're pregnant and
> > you dare to eat anything in public because someone will have an opinion
> > about it... Complete outsiders will comment on your clothing, break into
> > your quiet conversation about a relationship problem to tell you to
"Dump
> > the bastard!", or dump all their problems on you.
> >
> > People walk right up to you and ask you to change your religion, and
> > they're not respectful about it either. I've been asked really rude
> > questions by people I had never seen before about pentacles, prayer
beads,
> > etc. People stand outside of clinics and shout at you about medical
> > procedures they disapprove of.
> >
> > And yet... you can leave your trash can right out in the damn street
where
> > someone could trip over it and break their neck, and no one cares.
>
> This makes me feel that there are more good points to New Zealand than
> I realised - aside from a very few anti-abortionists outside clinics
> this sort of thing only happens to politicians, and recent events
> suggest that the protesters are more at risk from the politicians than
> vice versa.
>
>
> --
> Rupert Boleyn
> Wellington, New Zealand
>
> A pessimist is an optimist with a sense of history.
>
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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:56:38 +1000
From: david.d.jaques-watson@centrelink.gov.au
Subject: Re: One Day In Peace 2
Dear Folks -
Kiri said:
>> Do the K'Kree throw paint on old ladies in furs?
Actually, there is an old JTAS article by J. Andrew Keith about this sort of
thing (from an interview with the K'kree ambassador at Capital). To continue:
Glenn said:
>The K'Kree shoot old ladies in furs.
The K'kree would consider that to be a waste of ammunition.
They just trample them instead.
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http://www.tip.net.au/~davidjw davidjw@pcug.org.au
"I file things in historical order, with a hashing algorithm of gravity"
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position of Centrelink or any other Commonwealth Government agency.
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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:01:38 PST
From: shadow@krypton.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Subject: Re: Alien Protest Forms (was: [OT] One Day In Peace 2)
In mail you write:
> At 06:46 PM 10/31/99 -0800, you wrote:
>>In mail you write:
>>
>> > Zhondani -> No. Those who are unhappy are "helped" before it ever comes
> to
>> > that.
>>
>>Only if you accept the "evil, mind-raping Zho scum" stereotype. It's
>>also possible that the discontent that would lead to protests is noted
>>in the earlist stages, and the *problem* is dealt with.
>>
>>In some cases, the problem is a matter of perception, or can't readily
>>be solved. In which case various sorts of counseling and support are
>>available. And it may even be possible that it would be judged that a
>>peaceful protest would be the best way for the proles to deal with
>>their feelings about the unfixable problem.
>
> Only if you accept the "nice caring utopian Zho superbeings" stereotype. :)
My advice is to find out which of the two stereotypes your players
believe is the way Zhos "really are". Then keep having them run into
incidents that fit the other stereotype. If they change their mind,
change the incident type.
- --
Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow)
shadow@krypton.rain.com <--preferred
leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com <--last resort
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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 00:15:03 -0800
From: Evyn MacDude
Subject: Re: opengl95.exe
Shimmergloom wrote:
> Now I feel stupid.
>
Don't......
You should be around here when I have burn
and pave my C drive.... I always manage to forget
how to setup my mail accounts. And usually have
lost the notes I make evry time.
- --
Evyn...
Get six jolly cowboys to carry my coffin
Get six pretty maidens to bear up my pall
Bunches of roses all over my coffin
Roses to deaden the clods as they fall
Laredo
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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 00:27:59 -0800
From: Evyn MacDude
Subject: Re: [OT] One Day Of Peace
Kenji Schwarz wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>
> > As Dick Cavett put it so eloquently many years ago, "If violence in TV and
> > movies causes violence in the world, how come we don't see random acts of
> > situation comedy breaking out on the streets?"
>
> I see it constantly. I wish I didn't. Life would be much easier that
> way.
Ah... Someone else who works with the general public.
- --
Evyn...
Get six jolly cowboys to carry my coffin
Get six pretty maidens to bear up my pall
Bunches of roses all over my coffin
Roses to deaden the clods as they fall
Laredo
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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:56:38 +1300
From: "Frank Pitt"
Subject: Re: Alderson Drives and the MiGE Universe (was Re: Traveller: Aberrant jump drives (was Re: Just say "no" to lhyd))
> >"Building the Mote In God's Eye" which was later republished in the
> >collection "A Step Further Out", which in itself is a wonderful
> >quick reference for all sorts of Travelleresque stuff.
>
> Got an ISBN for this? Amazon pulled nothing up by the title, nor
> under Pournelle's name.
My copy, an Ace "large" paperback, does not have an explcitly marked ISBN,
though it has the number of 78584-0 on the front cover next to the Ace logo.
It also states it was printed in the USA.
I have another copy of _half_ the book, labelled "A Step Farther Out Part 2"
undr the "Star" label and that has the ISBN 0 352 30906 7 Though this
doesn't have the chapter on "Building the Mote In God's Eye" , which I
assume is in Part 1
Frankie
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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 11:36:25 +0000
From: Phil Kitching
Subject: Re: [OT] One Day In Peace 2
At 10:46 31/10/1999 -0800, Kiri Aradia Morgan wrote:
>ObTrav: I wonder about different protesting styles in the cultures of the
>Third Imperium. How do the Vilani protest ANYTHING? Do the Vargr and the
>Aslan even have demonstrations? Do the K'Kree throw paint on old ladies in
>furs?
K'Kree do not throw paint...
They take off and nuke the old lady from orbit because "it's the only way
to be sure!"
Phil Kitching
Phil Kitching
- --
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Postmark Design Bureau, Emerging Technologies Division.
"Microwaving half-baked ideas from across the Galaxy"
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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 12:41:20 +0000
From: Phil Kitching
Subject: Re: Critical Mass
At 12:37 31/10/1999 -0800, Darren Sherbot wrote:
>...Do you know how hard it is to pass a cyclist in my Ford Explorer
>and then make an abrupt right hand turn without hitting the "jerk" with my
>side view mirror?
I'd have thought that your main risk was that "jerk" denting your door.
Surely you have to swing that monstrosity out across three lanes in
order to have enough room to roll it round a corner?
Besides, if you followed the one true path (ie driving on the left) in the
one true vehicle (ie MG sportscar), you wouldn't have *this* problem with
turning right.
;-)
Phil Kitching
- --
http://www.btinternet.com/~salvo/
Postmark Design Bureau, Emerging Technologies Division.
"Microwaving half-baked ideas from across the Galaxy"
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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:23:12 EST
From: Diespamer@aol.com
Subject: Re: Traveller-digest V1999 #1281
Greetings:
Now this is really wacky! Issue 1281 arived--colored red! Honest! Bright red!
I've never seen anything like it!
What a thing to look at before you're fully awake!
Fred Kiesche
(Diespamer@aol.com)
(Traveller Since 1977)
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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:15:35 -0000
From: "MJ Dougherty"
Subject: Announcement - TravShorts
Shortly before his tragic death in August, I found myself discussing the
possibility of a collection of Traveller short stories with J Andrew Keith.
Andrew was very keen on the idea. Sadly, he died before his contribution
could be agreed.
We all know what a loss he was.
I have Marc's permission to continue the project and publish it as a tribute
to Andrew, and to this end I am soliciting short (3-7000 word) stories set
in any* canon Traveller setting. Publication date is at present set at
"sometime in the new year".
For contribution details, please contact me at martinjd@globalnet.co.uk (not
Marc) by email in the first instance. Don't send MS, just a query letter.
* GURPS Traveller 1120 and any tale relying upon canon originally published
by DGP are dubious ground, so cannot be accepted.
Regards
MJD
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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 08:43:35 -0600
From: Shimmergloom
Subject: Re: Alien Protest Forms (was: [OT] One Day In Peace 2)
I used to use this method for dealing with drow in my D$D games.
Leonard Erickson wrote:
> In mail you write:
>
> > At 06:46 PM 10/31/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >>In mail you write:
> >>
> >> > Zhondani -> No. Those who are unhappy are "helped" before it ever comes
> > to
> >> > that.
> >>
> >>Only if you accept the "evil, mind-raping Zho scum" stereotype. It's
> >>also possible that the discontent that would lead to protests is noted
> >>in the earlist stages, and the *problem* is dealt with.
> >>
> >>In some cases, the problem is a matter of perception, or can't readily
> >>be solved. In which case various sorts of counseling and support are
> >>available. And it may even be possible that it would be judged that a
> >>peaceful protest would be the best way for the proles to deal with
> >>their feelings about the unfixable problem.
> >
> > Only if you accept the "nice caring utopian Zho superbeings" stereotype. :)
>
> My advice is to find out which of the two stereotypes your players
> believe is the way Zhos "really are". Then keep having them run into
> incidents that fit the other stereotype. If they change their mind,
> change the incident type.
>
>
>
> --
> Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow)
> shadow@krypton.rain.com <--preferred
> leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com <--last resort
- --
- ----------------------------------------------
he he he he he he he he he he he he
Shimmer
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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 10:34:05 -0500
From: Ian Ferguson
Subject: RE: Paying for health care
Eris Reddoch writes:
>Frankly, I think, a lot of us play the medical system as being
>pretty much free as well. When's the last time you asked a PC
>for an insurance card or denied them medical care until they
>paid, or showed that they could pay for the care?
That happened the last time that a PC went to a hospital
for care IMTU. Gee, Eris, I pictured you as a much
nastier GM than that ;)
Peez
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:35:04 -0600 (CST)
From: "Jason Kemp"
Subject: Re: [OT] One Day Of Peace
From: "Chris Seamans"
> Jason Kemp forwarded the following:
< non-inflammatory comments.>>
> Jason, my apologies if you're insulted by my comments.
Not at all, my friend. Not at all. I got what I expected from my
post, and I can tell that at least two people from the list got what
I got from it, and the rest got some great conversation fodder that's
been going on now for over three days. I'm just glad to be of
service. (And also glad I didn't get flamed more than I did, which
was hardly at all. I really should have presented my intent much
better; I must work on my communication skills. *grin*)
With Warm Regards,
Jason
ObTrav: See, this is one of the reasons the TML is my favorite list.
Everyone's cool with each other, and even with the flames and the
occasionally heated discussions, there is still a lot of mutual
respect between its members, or at least the appearance of such.
Thanks, All!
=============================
Jason Kemp, ADS Programmer IV
(512)458-7111 ext. 3375
Internet Address: jason.kemp@tdh.state.tx.us
==============================
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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 08:30:20 -0700
From: Erwin Fritz
Subject: Re: Paying for health care
Ian Ferguson wrote:
>
> Eris Reddoch writes:
>
> >Frankly, I think, a lot of us play the medical system as being
> >pretty much free as well. When's the last time you asked a PC
> >for an insurance card or denied them medical care until they
> >paid, or showed that they could pay for the care?
>
> That happened the last time that a PC went to a hospital
> for care IMTU. Gee, Eris, I pictured you as a much
> nastier GM than that ;)
Actually, IMTU the PCs must pay for health care, or the hospital gets very
annoyed. Health insurance is funded by megacorporations, so if you don't work
for one, first aid is a cash business.
- --
Erwin Fritz
Gilbert Laustsen Jung Associates Ltd.
http://www.glja.com
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:03:29 -0600 (CST)
From: Steven Bonneville
Subject: Re: Where the heck is Scangen?
David Summers wrote:
> Can anyone tell me what hex Scangen is in? (In the Gvurdon Sector) I have
> the GDW Alien module and I'm running the Traveller Adventure and I was
> going to point it out to my players, but if it says exactly where it is, I
> can't find it.
I'll have to check my notes and get back to you. Otherwise, I think that
there was a note in Bannerji's pocket showing his "vacation trip" route to
the sunny Vargr Extents -- if it shows the whole route, then there should
only be a few possible worlds that work and haven't been identified as
something else.
> (BTW, does the system at 3034 really have a GTL of 13 (TTL of 16)??? Isn't
> that awfully high for the Vargr extents?)
It appears to. The Vargr world generation rules I've seen seem to allow
this for a reasonable number of worlds. I think it's reasonable that the
Vargr are tech-16 in spots; they've never had an Extents-wide Long Night,
after all. Lair is tech-15, but it's been pointed out that there's more
important Vargr worlds than Lair.
-- Steve Bonneville
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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:28:39 -0000
From: "Chris Seamans"
Subject: Re: Alien Protest Forms (was: [OT] One Day In Peace 2)
- -----Original Message-----
From: Juliean Galak
To: traveller@lists.imagiconline.com
Date: Monday, November 01, 1999 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: Alien Protest Forms (was: [OT] One Day In Peace 2)
>At 06:46 PM 10/31/99 -0800, you wrote:
>>In mail you write:
>>
>> > Zhondani -> No. Those who are unhappy are "helped" before it ever
comes to
>> > that.
>>
>>Only if you accept the "evil, mind-raping Zho scum" stereotype. It's
>>also possible that the discontent that would lead to protests is noted
>>in the earlist stages, and the *problem* is dealt with.
>>
>>In some cases, the problem is a matter of perception, or can't readily
>>be solved. In which case various sorts of counseling and support are
>>available. And it may even be possible that it would be judged that a
>>peaceful protest would be the best way for the proles to deal with
>>their feelings about the unfixable problem.
>
>Only if you accept the "nice caring utopian Zho superbeings" stereotype.
:)
It might be a little from Column A and a little from Column B. There might
be times when a problem isn't considered to be a problem by the Zhodani
leadership, and the "evil, mind-raping Zho scum" option might be used. On
the other hand, if the problem is one that is valid and *should* be fixed,
then I can see the "nice caring utopian Zho superbeings" option being put
into action.
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