Subj: Traveller-digest V1999 #1610
Date: 12/30/99 9:35:46 PM Pacific Standard Time
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Traveller-digest Friday, December 31 1999 Volume 1999 : Number 1610
(R)1996. Traveller is a registered trademark of FarFuture Enterprises.
All rights reserved.
The following topics are covered in this digest:
Re: Galaxy Quest!
Re: DreamWorks gets a keyboard kill
FW: Goverment Overkill
Re: Galaxy Quest!
Total Con Traveller Game
Re: Galaxy Quest!
Ageing in MT
Re: Keyboard kills & misc
art & attraction
Re: Goverment Overkill
Re: Re Knoll vs Gnoll
Character Generation Program for Palm Pilot?
Re: Total Con Traveller Game
Old laws/weird legal systems
Re: Re A/UX
Re: Traveller-digest V1999 #1608
Re: Old laws/weird legal systems
Re: Colt
Re: Why use .jpg?
Re: Traveller-digest V1999 #1609
SEC: UNCLASS - Farscape
Re: Keyboard kills & misc
Re: Old laws/weird legal systems
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 22:31:22 -0500
From: "David J. Golden"
Subject: Re: Galaxy Quest!
Yes, please. I didn't spend four years at Sinister Medical School to
be called mister ...
At 10:33 pm 12/30/99 -0500, you wrote:
>You are an EVIL MAN. Shall I call you "Dr. Sinister"? :)
>___________________________________________________________
> J-Man
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>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David J. Golden"
>To:
>Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 9:51 PM
>Subject: Galaxy Quest!
>
>
>> Two comments--funny movie, and does anybody else see the potential
>> for a "silly" Traveller adventure that I see?
>>
>> Picture a dozen or so TML'ers, picked up by aliens who've been
>> monitoring the discussions on near-C rocks, pirates, fleet
tactics,
>> et al., and think we're actually as smart as *we* think we are ...
>
>
>
- -- As Dick Cavett put it so eloquently many years ago, "If violence
in TV and movies causes violence in the world, how come we don't see
random acts of situation comedy breaking out on the streets?"
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 22:46:38 -0500
From: "Josh W. Spencer"
Subject: Re: DreamWorks gets a keyboard kill
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On 12/30/1999 22:24, Jeff Zeitlin wrote:
> I'm still giggling about it. It was fantastic. It was cast
> nearly perfectly. You will never look at Star Trek the same way
> again. Go see it - go directly to see it, do not pass GO, do not
> collect $200.
>
> I refer, of course, to this year's Christmas offering from
> DreamWorks, 'Galaxy Quest'.
>
> I was in the theatre watching it, so I didn't have a keyboard to
> kill - but trust me, when it comes out on DVD, and people start
> playing it on their computers, there _will_ be a need for new
> keyboards. If I tell you _why_ I feel this way, it would give
> away too much. GO SEE IT!
One thing's for sure...No incarnation of the Enterprise had that "death
trap" like the Protector did. Unless of course you count the Jeffries Tubes.
Nevertheless, an interestign design for a starship.
One other pun in this movie you may or may not be aware of. I think I either
saw it on a promo poster OR on their web site...but there is a mention of
one other NSEA starship....the "Trojan."
NEVER GIVE UP...NEVER SURRENDER!
>
> WHAT ARE YOU SITTING THERE READING THIS DAMN MAILING LIST FOR?
> GO SEE THE MOVIE!
I did done saw it....:) :)
- --
Josh W. Spencer (macmanjws@earthlink.net)
Ypsilanti, Michigan, USA
http://home.earthlink.net/~macmanjws
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 22:47:01 -0500
From: "Walter G. Smith"
Subject: FW: Goverment Overkill
Something vaguely on-topic from a friend:
Your tax dollars at work.
____________________________________________________________
During the heat of the space race in the 1960's, the U.S.
National Aeronautics and Space Administration decided it
needed a ball point pen to write in the zero gravity confines
of its space capsules.
After considerable research and development, the Astronaut
Pen was developed at a cost of $1 million.
The pen worked and also enjoyed some modest success as a
novelty item back here on Earth.
The Soviet Union, faced with the same problem of writing in
zero gravity, used a pencil.
Walt Smith
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 21:57:53 -0600
From: Black ICE
Subject: Re: Galaxy Quest!
"Swordy (Colin Michael)" wrote:
>
> Oh, I take it you weren't here in '98 when the -fnord **** not cleared****
> fnord- and all we got for souvenirs were a t-shirt and a fountain pen?
You got a t-shirt?!? _I_ got a rock. :-P
"But everybody wants a rock to wind a piece of string around...."
<>
- --
AuricTech Shipyards Journeyman Gearhead
"Gold-Plated [tm] solutions for copper-plated problems!" (r)
Keeper of the TML Keyboard Casualty List
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/9776
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 22:55:58 -0500
From: Mark Urbin
Subject: Total Con Traveller Game
I just got my TotalCon (Late Feb, Andover MA). There is a Traveller
adventure mentioned.
I'll have to read up on the time slots and send in my entry form soon.
Any other TMLers going?
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 22:58:04 -0500
From: "Josh W. Spencer"
Subject: Re: Galaxy Quest!
On 12/30/1999 22:57, Black ICE wrote:
>
> You got a t-shirt?!? _I_ got a rock. :-P
>
> "But everybody wants a rock to wind a piece of string around...."
Good to know somebody out there also likes They Might Be Giants! :) :)
- --
Josh
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 14:59:18 +1100
From: "Jim & Peta Lawrie"
Subject: Ageing in MT
I (now) know that Gurps-T defers aging, does TNE? For MegaTraveller I've
allowed PCs to defer aging for one term for every TL past 9, so at TL 14 you
make your first roll at term-10 or 54 years old. Does this seem unwieldy for
the campaign to you? I also allow career changes but for every term past 4
(+1 per TL>9) it adds 1 to the enlistment difficulty.
Jim
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 22:56:54 -0500
From: "Walter G. Smith"
Subject: Re: Keyboard kills & misc
Thomas Vickers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>Nah, Sable is a mercenary.
>
>(Mike Grell's comic series from the eighties)
>
And here I was thinking I was the only person to own a complete John Sable,
Freelance set of Comics. There must be two of us in the world :)
>>>>>>>>>>
Three. I keep 'em in a box with my copies of _Grimjack_ and
_American Flagg_. :-)
Walt Smith
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 23:17:27 -0500
From: Mark Urbin
Subject: art & attraction
Kenji types out by the light of a full spectrum bulb:
>On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Mark Urbin wrote:
>> Kenji puts forth on the Ether:
>> >I will wait breathlessly for the first Traveller art to depict the
>> >Intrepid Adventurers with potbellies and cellulite.
>> My copy of "The Traveller Book" has an illustration of the sample
character
>> Merchant Captain Alexander Jamison.
>> The face is drawn rather heavyset. Full cheeks, thick neck and the top
>> part of a large torso.
>Okay, okay, I remember that. I stand corrected. So that's one out of
>what, a couple hundred PC-stand-ins in the course of OTU publishing?
You are correct. A handful out of the entire lot.
Someone probably hit the nail on the head when they said the most of the
artists were men who didn't get out much.
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 23:16:55 -0500
From: "Chris Seamans"
Subject: Re: Goverment Overkill
From: Walter G. Smith
> Something vaguely on-topic from a friend:
>
> Your tax dollars at work.
>
>
> During the heat of the space race in the 1960's, the U.S.
> National Aeronautics and Space Administration decided it
> needed a ball point pen to write in the zero gravity confines
> of its space capsules.
>
> After considerable research and development, the Astronaut
> Pen was developed at a cost of $1 million.
>
> The pen worked and also enjoyed some modest success as a
> novelty item back here on Earth.
>
> The Soviet Union, faced with the same problem of writing in
> zero gravity, used a pencil.
Personally, I'd be interested to see something about the sheer *propaganda
value* of the Astronaut Pen. Unfortunately, there's no easy way to measure
the effects of kids across the country opening up issues of Superboy,
Spider-Man and The House of Mystery and seeing the Astronaut Pen proudly
advertised, or the effects of wives across the country ordering it from
Lillian Vernon, Inc. as stocking stuffers for their husbands.
One million dollars for a way to bring an artifact of the space race home to
the people of America? That's awfully cheap.
Besides, the Soviet space program's cleaning bill was well over a million
dollars. After all, it's awfully *messy* to clean out a pencil sharpener in
zero-g! :)
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 23:21:10 -0500
From: "Walter G. Smith"
Subject: Re: Re Knoll vs Gnoll
Jim & Peta Lawrie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
I've always liked the Hyenas, mean critters. They out mass every other
predator in Africa apart from a male lion and are quite capable of taking
out lions if required. An interesting Traveller species:
(Hyenati Corsair Pilot) "Captain, a big fat trader is on the screen."
(Hyenati Corsair Captain) "*Yawn* Wait until the Vargr attack it and then
we'll pick up the scrap. I'm off for a nap. If the Vargr attack Us, wake me
and we'll hit 'em with the spinal mount."
>>>>>>>>>
Just as frequently:
(Hyenati Corsair Pilot): "Captain, are we going to let those blasted
Ihatei raiders take our prize away from us? We fought hard to capture
that trade convoy!!"
(Hyenati Corsair Captain): *Whap* *Whack* *Slash* "Quiet you whiney
toad! Keep alert for an opening!! We'll get ours, as soon as they make
a mistake..."
(Hyenas are strong, fast, and work in packs.. Male lions are really, really
good at driving hyenas away from kills. Those wildlife films we see of a
pride of lions lounging around a kill, with hyenas slinking around the
edges? Often enough, the hyenas were there first.)
Walt Smith
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 23:23:54 -0500
From: Mark Urbin
Subject: Character Generation Program for Palm Pilot?
Details on any such animal should be posted to the list.
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 23:36:21 -0500
From: "Swordy \(Colin Michael\)"
Subject: Re: Total Con Traveller Game
Whoa, I could almost make it to that. Hmm. I could tell the wife that it
is her birthday present to me. Maybe!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Colin Michael, WebDev
www.downport.com
The Traveller Domain
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Urbin"
> I just got my TotalCon (Late Feb, Andover MA). There is a Traveller
> adventure mentioned.
> I'll have to read up on the time slots and send in my entry form soon.
>
> Any other TMLers going?
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 20:35:11 PST
From: shadow@krypton.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Subject: Old laws/weird legal systems
A few more waysd to keep your players on their toes:
Given the history of the Imperium, there are going to be laws that are
multiple *thousands* of years old, that have never been explicitly
repealed, but aren't enforced anymore either. If you are *careful* you
can take advantage of this. But it could backfire.
A couple of real world examples:
Back in Victorian times, a man who was likely going to lose a civil
suit noted that trial by combat was technically still legal. So he sent
proper notification to the court and the other party in the suit.
He showed up, in armor, at the appointed place and time and
(apparently) so did an officer of the court. Since the other party had
declined the challenge, he won the case!
Parliment eliminated this "loophole" next session.
More recently (in the last 5-10 years) a student at Oxford noted that
the rules of the College required the College to provide "ale and
cakes" for the "young gentlemen" sitting examinations. So, next exam
time, he requested the "ale and cakes" pointing to the regulation.
After a bit of discussing, it was decided that some burgers and a pint
(or some such) were an acceptable modern equivalent. And they presented
them to him, and he happily muched and sipped his way thru his exams.
Alas, after completing them, he was presented with notice that he was
being fines 25 pounds for failing to wear his sword to the exams (also
in the old regulations). :-)
The moral is that when invoking old rules, be prepared to have other
old ones invoked against you.
Feel free to chose some current laws that might still be on the books
in 1100 Imp.
Another thought is that back when planets were first contacted and
brought into the Imperium, some of the (then) low TL worlds may have
had some *very* odd legal systems. Ones that may have become "frozen"
when they joined.
This leads to things like players having a legal dispute on such a
world and being asked if they intend to fight themselves or hire a
"Gladiator at Law".
Yep, a world where trial by combat is still the rule, but where it's
also been "modernized".
"You have the right to trail by ordeal. If you decline ordeal, you are
subject to trial by combat. If you are not fit to fight and cannot
afford a champion, one will be appointed for you..."
If any of you use that bit in a "miranda Warning", I want to hear
about the player's reaction!
Heck, anybody got a copy of the *real* Miranda warning? Let's see what
we can do with it!
Check your history books for other methods of of rendering judgement.
- --
Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow)
shadow@krypton.rain.com <--preferred
leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com <--last resort
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 23:04:30 -0600
From: William Barnett-Lewis
Subject: Re: Re A/UX
Oh, foo, there will _always_ be media issues. Gonna make my age obvious
here... Is there anyone else who can remember getting their RK11 packs from
Ken and Ritchie - Heh - I can't, but my immediate teachers did...
For those of you who miss the implications of this post, well, just ask
Linus the next time you see him. He _knows_ how lucky he was...
Time to bail before I _really_ make a fool of myself...
on 30/12/1999 5:23 PM, Traveller-digest at
owner-traveller-digest@lists.imagiconline.com wrote:
>
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 11:31:38 PST
> From: shadow@krypton.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
> Subject: Re: Re A/UX
>
> In mail you write:
>
>> Ob Trav: I don't bother with computer issues much IMTU, as I assume the
>> Imperial Virtual Machine, which is required for all starship computers to
>> use. Since it is standardized, and hardware emulated, it doesn't slow
>> things down TOO much. And it guarantees that you can buy SW on any planet
>> of sufficient TL. Getting it into the right media to be loaded, however,
>> may be tricky!
>
> What "media"? You have a portable "storage box" that transfers data via
> any of several standard Imperial data interfaces (SCSI, 10-base-100,
> etc). You connect it up to the system at the point of sale, they
> transfer your software to your box. They you return to your
> business/ship and connect the box to the system and upload the
> software.
>
> Actually, I'd bet that the software is available on the local net. The
> "dongle" that lets it know you are an authorized user is what you get
> when you fork over the cash. Unlike now, there will be a dedicated set
> of ports for the "dongles". You just stick it into an empty slot.
>
> - --
> Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow)
> shadow@krypton.rain.com <--preferred
> leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com <--last resort
>
> ------------------------------
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Live without fear; your Creator loves you | William Barnett-Lewis
as a mother. Go in peace to follow the good | mailto://wlewis@mailbag.com
road and may God's blessing be with |
you always. |
St. Claire |
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 23:08:05 -0600
From: William Barnett-Lewis
Subject: Re: Traveller-digest V1999 #1608
on 30/12/1999 5:23 PM, Traveller-digest at
owner-traveller-digest@lists.imagiconline.com wrote:
> Actually, going by *farm* life, kids as young as 8 will be operating
> the simpler equipment. They may have "chores" that involve doing the
> simpler tasks in the control room or enegineering. And they'll know
> *quite* well what they are and aren't allowed to
Eight????
Wish I'd lived on that farm.
Try, (Yes, this is my experience only. So?)
5 years when dealing with corn...
I have memories I can't place that may well be younger.
W.
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Live without fear; your Creator loves you | William Barnett-Lewis
as a mother. Go in peace to follow the good | mailto://wlewis@mailbag.com
road and may God's blessing be with |
you always. |
St. Claire |
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 00:03:55 -0500
From: "Chris Seamans"
Subject: Re: Old laws/weird legal systems
From: Leonard Erickson
> More recently (in the last 5-10 years) a student at Oxford noted that
That one has been circulating since the 1950s when it appeared in Reader's
Digest. It's a fine college legend, but alas it's not true.
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 23:14:05 -0600
From: William Barnett-Lewis
Subject: Re: Colt
I really almost hat saying this, but lets face it, Colt is a "Megacorp". As
such they _can't_ care about us. Survival, by any means. counts instead. I
am a liberal who is in favor of Gun Control Laws and - I still own 2 hand
guns and plan to buy more. This contradiction is, I believe, at the heart of
America's insanity on this issue.
on 30/12/1999 5:23 PM, Traveller-digest at
owner-traveller-digest@lists.imagiconline.com wrote:
> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:16:20 -0600
> From: "Thomas Vickers"
> Subject: Re: OT Gunbunny notice
>
>> FWIW I'm sure some of you (Jesse?) will be pleased to know that
>> BAEsystems has signed a letter of agreement with Colt Manufacturing
>> to sell them H&K.
>
> ------------------------------
WTF - Your mileage _will_ vary. So?
W.
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Live without fear; your Creator loves you | William Barnett-Lewis
as a mother. Go in peace to follow the good | mailto://wlewis@mailbag.com
road and may God's blessing be with |
you always. |
St. Claire |
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 20:56:55 PST
From: shadow@krypton.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Subject: Re: Why use .jpg?
In mail you write:
> Continuous tone images (ie: photographs) should be jpegs. Line art
> should be gif. In fact, for something like a deckplan it will just
> about always look better in GIF unless you use minimum compression
> on your jpeg.
>
> 3d rendered images can go both ways depending on how complext they
> are (as they get more photo-real, they need jpeging). There are a
> few sites online that will also optimize your gifs for you to minimize
> file size--they are really cool:
Actually, best of all would require special hardware.
I *really* miss my old Tektronics graphics terminal. *Vector* graphics.
*No* pixels. 1024x1024 "addressing". And it was just one of the crude
4010 equivalent units. Not one of the high end jobs that could rotate
the images in realtime.
Battlestar Galactica used a *ton* of Tek graphics gear. Which made tek
*really* POed when the stuff vanished from the sets at the end of the
series.
- --
Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow)
shadow@krypton.rain.com <--preferred
leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com <--last resort
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 23:18:22 -0600
From: William Barnett-Lewis
Subject: Re: Traveller-digest V1999 #1609
Perfect. This is beyond a keyboard kill - It's just too right. Too true. The
rest is utterly irrelevant.
on 30/12/1999 9:25 PM, Traveller-digest at
owner-traveller-digest@lists.imagiconline.com wrote:
>
> "I wanted a mission, and for my sins they gave me one. Brought it up to me
> like room service. It was a real choice mission, and when it was over, I'd
> never want another."
>
>
>
> - --------------
> Kelly St.Clair "The Jigglypuff's trilling seems to have a
> kellys@efn.org tranquilizing effect on the human nervous system.
> Fortunately, I am... immune..."
> -- Mr. Spock, THE TROUBLE WITH POKEMON
Bowing in pure admiration,
William
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Live without fear; your Creator loves you | William Barnett-Lewis
as a mother. Go in peace to follow the good | mailto://wlewis@mailbag.com
road and may God's blessing be with |
you always. |
St. Claire |
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 02:51:03 +1100
From: "David Healey"
Subject: SEC: UNCLASS - Farscape
Gentlesophonts,
A coupla weeks ago, someone was asking about Farscape, but not having seen the series before, I ignored those posts. I just saw an ad for it to start here next year (Channel 9 for the Australians on the list). What opinions of this series are out there ? At first glance it looks like a cross between Stargate and B5.
David Healey
DCB-M MVS Operations
600 Years ago, they KNEW the world was flat
60 Years ago, they KNEW you couldn't go faster than sound
6 Minutes ago, you KNEW your code was indestructable ......
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 18:23:49 +1300
From: "Frank Pitt"
Subject: Re: Keyboard kills & misc
> And here I was thinking I was the only person to own a complete John
Sable,
> Freelance set of Comics. There must be two of us in the world :)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> Three. I keep 'em in a box with my copies of _Grimjack_ and
> _American Flagg_. :-)
So, anyone used Flagg in a Traveller game ?
I always liked the somnambutol rounds
Pa - Pa ooooooooooooooooo Mow Mow!
Grimjack, of course, is a classic Shadowrun character.
BTW, I picked up several Flagg #1 and Sable #1 from our local comic shop
sale at about 50c each if anyone wants one, don't know why they had so many.
Got a few other as well if anyone's missing any.
Frankie
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 00:44:43 -0500
From: "Craig Lytton"
Subject: Re: Old laws/weird legal systems
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Leonard Erickson
> If any of you use that bit in a "miranda Warning", I want to hear
> about the player's reaction!
>
> Heck, anybody got a copy of the *real* Miranda warning? Let's see what
> we can do with it!
>
> Check your history books for other methods of of rendering judgement.
>
> --
> Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow)
> shadow@krypton.rain.com <--preferred
> leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com <--last resort
>
Really, the question is what level of coercion is sanctioned by law when
interrogating a suspect...
The issue is whether the information is admissable in court, and the Miranda
warning is given to CYA before questioning a suspect. Giving the warning
helps prove that the confession/admission wasn't coerced from an
individual. I think the specific warnings vary in wording from one
department to another slighty.
I don't have a copy of an actual Miranda Warning handy right now, but here
is some information from "Criminal Procedure for the Criminal Justice
Professional":
- -------
- -Coercive police activity is necessary for an admission or confession to be
found involuntary.
- -Satisfaction of Miranda requirements is a relative consideration in
determining the voluntariness of an admission or confession, but it is not
conclusive.
- -Only voluntary admissions or confessions that are obtained in compliance
with Miranda requirements will be admissable in court.
- -------
This is under US law.
Generally, the Miranda warnings are required when interrogating a subject in
custody. Admissions to private citizens and some other circumstances
(public safety,undercover agents, a voluntary statement made before the
officer has a chance to give the warning, ect) aren't restricted.
Basically, the warning is that you have the right to get a lawyer, you have
the right to keep your mouth shut for your own good until you get a lawyer,
and that anything you say can be used against you in court. There are some
other parts too, but I can't remember them all.
I'm not sure how the Imperium would apply this concept, I think their goals
are to keep an Intersteller economy running as smoothly as possible, keep
lines of communication open, and provide defense for the subject worlds. I
have a DGP Traveller Digest with an article on Imperial Law that I can look
at and send more info later. Offhand, I think that the Imperium would be a
little more liberal in what sorts of confessions (methods used to obtain
them that is) would be admissable in court.
As far as the individual worlds who knows???
I am not a lawyer, so if any of this is inaccurate, I apologize.
Craig
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