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Traveller-digest Saturday, December 18 1999 Volume 1999 : Number 1524
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The following topics are covered in this digest:
Re: technology advances
Re: Marooned (MegaT)
re:silly traveller
Re: Ethnicity
Re: OT unless applying Kenji's corollary
Re: Marooned (MegaT)
Re: Marooned (MegaT)
Re: Ethnic Confusions
Re: Marooned (MegaT)
Re: silly traveller
Re: Ethnicity
Re: Ethnicity
Re Susidized Medicine
Re Caseless
The Ship's (bob)cat
Re: Marooned (MegaT)
Re: Re Rations
Re: Silly Traveller
Re: OT unless applying Kenji's corollary
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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 03:30:08 -0500
From: "Chris Seamans"
Subject: Re: technology advances
From: Rupert Boleyn
> However LSD requires a lot more care and skill to make than meth.
>Here in NZ, from what I've been told, most of the acid is laced with
>speed. Bear in mind that just because there's only a few micrograms
>of acid there's no reason that 20 - 40 odd milligrams of speed can't
>be added.
Yes, actually there is a really good reason that 20 - 40 odd milligrams of
speed can't be added. LSD is most frequently (and I mean most frequently)
sold on "tabs" of blotter paper, the average size of each individual hit is
maybe 4mm x 4mm or 5mm x 5mm and probably weighs in at about 2 milligrams.
That much speed just doesn't fit, and to borrow a phrase from an
over-publicized trial: "If it doesn't fit, you must acquit!"
Of course, if LSD is sold in some other form, perhaps it's possible.
It doesn't surprise me that you've been told that it is laced with speed,
though. Anywhere you go in the U.S. you will be told that LSD is laced with
either speed or strychnine. In the U.S. there are now and have been various
organizations which test street drugs, usually affiliated with hospitals and
the like. Even in the early 70s, before LSD made the leap to blotter paper,
strychnine and methamphetamine adulteration were both extremely low,
generally under five percent. I can't site a physical source at the moment,
as it's been nearly a decade since I did the research. The company PharmChem
used to test street drugs routinely, Dr. Alexander Shulgin, was (or is) the
toxicologist over at the University of California in Berkeley and, IIRC, his
work may be useful if you're interested in researching as he's done a lot of
work concerning LSD, impurities and adulterants.
[Incidentally, I just checked the DEA's website to see if I could get a
quick reference, and there was no mention of the practice of LSD being cut
with other drugs. Make of that what you will, but if the practice was
common, I think that they might mention it, even in passing. They *did*
mention the practice of applying LSD to other substances and pawning them
off as something else which has a higher street value, but that's simply a
case of misrepresentation, not a case of LSD being cut with another
substance.]
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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 02:44:37 -0600
From: Black ICE
Subject: Re: Marooned (MegaT)
Sethkimmel@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 12/17/99 10:12:21 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> jimpeta@primus.com.au writes:
>
> << A nice survival weapon for the IISS would be a bullpup 5mm/12Gauge combo
> survival weapon. >>
>
> Query: How do lefties use it? Granted it's caseless, but.... I look at
> pictures of modern bullpup weapons, and it looks like a lefty would have
> his/her face up against the ejector port. Can some of the gun/anti gun
> flamies help me with this one?
Well, if the weapon _has_ an ejection port (for misfires, I guess, if
the weapon uses caseless ammo), then I would think that one could design
the stock with ejection ports on both sides. Provide a couple of parts
to deflect the brass (if non-caseless) and/or non-firing rounds to the
side away from the firer's face, through the port in the appropriate
side of the stock, and you're in business.
ISTR that the Steyr AUG bullpup rifle (fires 5.56mm NATO ammunition,
IIRC) is easily converted from right-handed to left-handed firing.
Having been trained on the M16A1, I simply taught myself to fire
right-handed. After all, while the US Army provided plastic brass
deflectors that clip onto the M16A1, I figured that, in combat, I might
not have a brass deflector handy.
>
> Ob Trav: I assume everything is ambi, or gene therapy has eliminated left
> hand dominance (sounds very Solomani, doesn't it...:-) )
Probably the former; it's quite possible that left-hand dominance is a
trait linked to some desirable trait, and that eliminating left-hand
dominance would also eliminate the desirable trait. Besides, I would
think it unwise to remove _any_ trait from the gene pool, unless it can
be shown that the trait is both uniformly harmful, and has no
counterbalancing benefits. F'r instance, while sickle-cell anemia
(having two recessive sickle-cell genes) is harmful, sickle-cell _trait_
(having only one sickle-cell gene) provides resistance to malaria. The
most likely course would be to discourage two recessive gene carriers
from having children that would inherit the harmful recessive gene from
both parents. How this would be achieved would depend on the
technological prowess and cultural values of the society in question.
(In other words, with one OT flamewar already raging on the list, I
choose not to kindle another one.)
- --
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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 02:49:26 CST
From: "Rick Stump"
Subject: re:silly traveller
>redroach@flex.net writes:
>
><< My other question is this: Okay, you have the genes to be a priest, but
>how
> many still have any clue as to the actual rituals? Am I wrong in
>thinking
> that no one has really performed any official "temple" rituals in a
>while?
> >>
>
>I am pretty sure it's all described in the Torah (Old Testamet), in I think
>Exodus and/or Levitticus...
Don't forget Deuteronomy!
>
>Ob Trav: would the Koran, Torah and King James Bible be recognizable in
>5700
>AD?
Not counting later additions (see the Book of Mormon) or heavy edits (like
the Melchizedek Bible) the 'core books' would almost certainly survive,
probably very accurate and with a number of Hebrew, Greek, and Arabic
scholars as a result. The idea of promoting education as a means to the end
of better religious knowledge has been an impetus to education for the
entire world. The Jewish dedication to education, the rise of the Mullah
groups in Arabic lands, the European college system, the examination process
of dynastic China, the oral histories of Celtic, African, Native American,
and Central Asian groups were primarily for the retention and transmission
of religious/philosophical information.
ObTrav: Would the graduates of various Vilani 'cooking schools' have heated
arguments over 'dogma'? What would Muslims do if they could never perform
the Hajj? Do various Christian sects argue about if you must be on Terra to
experience the Rapture?
- -Rick 'what's so odd about a Theology major with a dual minor in Chinese Lit
and Physics?' Stump
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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 00:59:34 -0800
From: "Kiri Aradia Morgan"
Subject: Re: Ethnicity
From: GaryBartz@aol.com
>I am going to weigh in. In my travels [one year in Europe, two in Asia] I
have found that America cries the most about racism and not respecting
people's whatever, but in Asia they all know each other's ethnic background
[while after two years I could make a good guess on sight], and they mostly
connect that first look to their entire feelings about that person, usually
disdain or hate, and they have no problem sharing those feelings, no matter
how rude.
>
The reasons that Americans complain more is that Americans think racism is
*wrong*-- well, often they don't think so, but they know they should SAY so,
and they do say so.
In large parts of Asia racism is perfectly acceptable, I say this as one who
has faced it. I don't know what the Hong Kong Chinese find more odious-- the
fact that I'm Japanese, or the fact that I'm Irish (which they often confuse
with British despite the fact that we were forcibly colonized too)! And I
just love (NOT) how I get followed around in department stores whenever I
get too far away from Osaka or Tokyo because I am slightly pale and wear a
leather jacket.
>I much prefer the American attitude towards race, even with the regular TV
breast beatings and rallies [unless, of course, they preempt Scooby-Doo].
"Hey, you are an Asian, are you in one of those gangs? No? Okay." is much
prefered to "You invaded my nation X ^x years ago, I hate you, you are
subhuman" in my book.
>
I'd certainly rather DEAL with that attitude. It's just that I haven't
encountered it a lot. I'm more familiar with being harassed by white people
when I'm out with my boyfriend, outside of California or even up north of
here in the wilderness near Sacramento. (Remember, guys, I can pass for
white.)
"Are you with the OOOOOOOOOriental gentleman?"
"Hey, I just want you two to know that I am a WWII veteran."
Or even worse, I and a person I'm dating are out with a group of friends, we
specifically say we're together, and the waitress adds my check up with the
only white guy at the table anyway.
::grrr::
Kiri
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kiri Aradia Morgan 93! Thou Art God...
tiamat@tsoft.com
"That wickedness weltering around inside of you, inside of everyone, is
sacred somewhere. There's
a deity out here who digs it. You can respect and love your darkest side,
disposing of only what is obsolete or impractical. It's all about giving
yourself permission."
-- Jack Darkhand
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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 01:30:19 -0800
From: shudson@lightspeed.bc.ca (Steven Hudson)
Subject: Re: OT unless applying Kenji's corollary
>From: ehenry@newberlin.org (Eric Henry)
>Subject: OT unless applying Kenji's corollary
>
>I've written a space combat game the history of which has combined USA and
>Canada into the Union of North America. How would Canadians feal about
>that? Americans? Would it help that in 2080 the president-elect from
>Toronto gives a "before the decade is out" speech
Picture a Senate with around 20 new members who would consider
Teddy Kennedy to be right wing :) The Republican Party would have
to be utterly brain-dead to risk losing that chamber for a couple
of generations at least.
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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 22:25:29 +1300
From: "Rupert Boleyn"
Subject: Re: Marooned (MegaT)
On 18 Dec 99, at 2:44, Black ICE wrote:
> Having been trained on the M16A1, I simply taught myself to fire
> right-handed. After all, while the US Army provided plastic brass
> deflectors that clip onto the M16A1, I figured that, in combat, I might
> not have a brass deflector handy. > > Ob Trav: I assume everything is
> ambi, or gene therapy has eliminated left > hand dominance (sounds very
> Solomani, doesn't it...:-) )
It's funny, but I never had a problem with the M16A1s. I don't know
whether our ammo was different, or whether the weapon were just so worn
they didn't kick the cases hard enough, but the only time I ever had
anything happen was when a plastic blank melted on ejection and
splattered across my right cheek (and the inside of the receiver,
jamming the rifle).
- --
Rupert Boleyn
Wellington, New Zealand
A pessimist is an optimist with a sense of history.
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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 22:25:29 +1300
From: "Rupert Boleyn"
Subject: Re: Marooned (MegaT)
On 18 Dec 99, at 3:09, Sethkimmel@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 12/17/99 10:12:21 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> jimpeta@primus.com.au writes:
>
> << A nice survival weapon for the IISS would be a bullpup 5mm/12Gauge
> combo
> survival weapon. >>
>
> Query: How do lefties use it? Granted it's caseless, but.... I look at
> pictures of modern bullpup weapons, and it looks like a lefty would have
> his/her face up against the ejector port. Can some of the gun/anti gun
> flamies help me with this one?
The Styer AUG and the French FA-MAS(?) both use a bolt that can have
the ejector switched to the other side, thus throwing the cases to the
left as opposed to the right. They also have an ejection port on each
side, and you just cover the one you're not using. However this is not
something you can do in the heat of the moment, so I strongly recommend
that you make sure that your buddy has the same handedness as yourself -
those cases are bloody hot! Oh, yeah - even with the right handedness
weapon watch hip-fire, too. The cases tend to get caught on your hip,
and can burn (or worse, jam the weapon).
- --
Rupert Boleyn
Wellington, New Zealand
A pessimist is an optimist with a sense of history.
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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 00:33:14 -0900
From: Richard Martin
Subject: Re: Ethnic Confusions
"Douglas E. Berry" wrote:
>
> At 12:56 AM 12/17/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >Curious question then...if the Solomani are the most physically diverse,
> >then what parts of Earth did the Vilani and Zhodani come from?
>
> Any part. Since the the samples taken by the Ancients could have been h.
> habilus, each branch of humanity continued evolving on its own on whatever
> world it was dropped on.
> --
Actually, if I get the story line correct, the Ancients distributed Homo
around 3-400,000 years ago? If so then it would have been Homo erectus,
not Homo habilis or Homo sapiens. The first known populations Homo
sapiens, at least by the majority of scholars, were probably around
100,000 to 150,000 years ago (archaic Homo sapiens), probably in South
Africa. This would collate with the African Eve theory based on
mitochondrial DNA. Indeed, there is more diversity amoung the
populations in Africa than between Africa and the rest of the world.
However, there is a minority competeing theory called regional evolution
put forth that claims that all the regional variation in the human
species was due to parallel evolution in diverse, semi-isolated
population of Homo Erectus with just enough admixture to keep us all one
species.
So if one takes the fist theory and grabs a population of at least 1000
(the number necessary for sucessful propogation with minimal effects of
Founders Syndrome), then they would have of all likely hood come from
Africa since this is the only possible viable source of sucessful sub
species of Home erectus. However, the second theory would allow for the
small phenotypical differences aoung the Human race by because of the
regional viablility of Homo erectus, thus they could have been snatched
from anywhere H. erectus was found.
All of this would, of course, be moot if the Ancients just said to heck
with it and introduced their own solutions....
- --
Richard Martin
Anthropolgy Major
UAA
I think, therefor I am, therefor I must be... Still here
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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 03:50:25 -0600
From: Black ICE
Subject: Re: Marooned (MegaT)
Rupert Boleyn wrote:
>
> On 18 Dec 99, at 2:44, Black ICE wrote:
>
> > Having been trained on the M16A1, I simply taught myself to fire
> > right-handed. After all, while the US Army provided plastic brass
> > deflectors that clip onto the M16A1, I figured that, in combat, I might
> > not have a brass deflector handy.
>
> It's funny, but I never had a problem with the M16A1s. I don't know
> whether our ammo was different, or whether the weapon were just so worn
> they didn't kick the cases hard enough, but the only time I ever had
> anything happen was when a plastic blank melted on ejection and
> splattered across my right cheek (and the inside of the receiver,
> jamming the rifle).
OUCH!
Seriously, the first day I saw my M16A1 in basic training, long before
we actually sent rounds downrange, I decided to shoot right-handed (even
though I had learned to shoot civilian rifles left-handed). When I saw
that ejector port, I figured, "Why take the risk?"
Nearly 16 years later, I've managed to qualify on the M16A1/M16A2 every
training year, so shooting with my "off-hand" (and weak eye) for rifles
hasn't hurt me much. (I have some sort of weird task-related hand
dominance: I play pool, open jars, and shoot civilian rifles
left-handed; and I write, throw, and shoot the M16 right-handed.)
- --
AuricTech Shipyards Journeyman Gearhead
"Gold-Plated [tm] solutions for copper-plated problems!" (r)
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/9776
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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 04:15:11 -0600
From: Black ICE
Subject: Re: silly traveller
Rick Stump wrote:
>
<>
>
> ObTrav: Would the graduates of various Vilani 'cooking schools' have heated
> arguments over 'dogma'? What would Muslims do if they could never perform
> the Hajj? Do various Christian sects argue about if you must be on Terra to
> experience the Rapture?
1. Given the speculation about Vilani canniblaism, I doubt that the
Vilani would be squeamish about cooking "dog"mas. Naturally, dogmas
such as chihuahuas, with their high metabolisms, would be less efficient
sources of protein than dogmas such as St. Bernards.... >;-)
2. For a discussion of this very issue, check the TML archives
beginning in early November 1999 for the topic "Islamic Observances in
Interstellar Space." (Yes, Rick, I started the thread in question, in
response to a previous thread on "Cultural Differences.")
3. I strongly suspect that, if the Rapture hasn't occurred by M:1100
(approximately AD 5700), the entire concept of the Rapture would be
somewhat discredited.
>
> -Rick 'what's so odd about a Theology major with a dual minor in Chinese Lit
> and Physics?' Stump
No accounting for the behavior of SIGINT weenies.... ;-)
Of course, as a soul-twisted (and soul-twisting) HUMINTer, there's only
one way to respond to _my_ likely behavior: Keep Your Distance. (I
recently received an Army Achievement Medal for scripting an exercise
for my National Guard unit. The last sentence of the citation read:
"When SFC Groth dies, he will go to Hell as a black-hatted cadre
member." 'Nuff said.)
- --
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"Gold-Plated [tm] solutions for copper-plated problems!" (r)
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/9776
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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 05:20:15 -0500
From: "Jory Earl"
Subject: Re: Ethnicity
My take on races, and please, someone who is knowledgeable in genetics
please correct me if I am wrong, is that there is only one human race and
that the various branches of it are merely human adaptations to climate.
Ergo, it follows that if MY ancestors were born in Africa, I too would be
black and not white as I am today. I also think that in a few millennia,
the people who are black and always living in the northern, colder climates,
will eventually breed light-skinned people, unless they keep re-infusing
their gene pools from other blacks migrating north.
In essence, to my way of thinking, this invalidates 'racism' and 'hate
crimes' attached to it because we are all one human race.
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Kiri Aradia Morgan"
To:
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 3:59 AM
Subject: Re: Ethnicity
> From: GaryBartz@aol.com
>
>
> >I am going to weigh in. In my travels [one year in Europe, two in Asia] I
> have found that America cries the most about racism and not respecting
> people's whatever, but in Asia they all know each other's ethnic
background
> [while after two years I could make a good guess on sight], and they
mostly
> connect that first look to their entire feelings about that person,
usually
> disdain or hate, and they have no problem sharing those feelings, no
matter
> how rude.
> >
> The reasons that Americans complain more is that Americans think racism is
> *wrong*-- well, often they don't think so, but they know they should SAY
so,
> and they do say so.
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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 21:17:52 +1100
From: "Jim & Peta Lawrie"
Subject: Re: Ethnicity
>My take on races, and please, someone who is knowledgeable in genetics
>please correct me if I am wrong, is that there is only one human race and
>that the various branches of it are merely human adaptations to climate.
>Ergo, it follows that if MY ancestors were born in Africa, I too would be
>black and not white as I am today. I also think that in a few millennia,
>the people who are black and always living in the northern, colder
climates,
>will eventually breed light-skinned people, unless they keep re-infusing
>their gene pools from other blacks migrating north.
>
>In essence, to my way of thinking, this invalidates 'racism' and 'hate
>crimes' attached to it because we are all one human race.
The best thing about this is I can have Poodle-Vargr', it really winds
up one of my players.
Do Vargr have to have all the little problems dogs have? Anal glands spring
to mind, don't go anywhere near Vargr enjoying themselves.
I will now go and disgust someone else.
: )
Jim L.
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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 01:22:47 -0900
From: "William F. Hostman"
Subject: Re Susidized Medicine
>>The socialized medicine thing would have to go, however.
>
>We don't have "socialized medicine" -- we have a publicly-funded universal
>health care insurance plan. Think of it as a "single-payer" system like
>I keep reading about that some people down your way propose.
>
>(In a true "socialized medicine" system, doctors are employees of the
>state and are paid a flat salary; private practice is virtually unknown.
>I have relatives in Europe in countries that have socialized medicine --
>when they need a doctor, the only thing they can do is go to the local
>clinic and wait for the next availble doctor, whoever it might be.)
>
If the "Single Payer System" isn't a form of socialized medicine, nothing
except the US PHS and similar would be. Looking at the socialized medicine
in the US, it is often payments set at specified rate, and the doctor may
as well be on government wage... and, at least in Alaska's Mental Health
Care System, the payment rate is low enough that most private practitioners
won't take the cases... Fromm what I've read, canada's system is somewhat
better... but, like other forms of limited socialization of a field, prices
tend to be at or near the "approved rates".
I know that my office's rates for clients are set to the State Subsidy
levels... basically, since we can't charge more than Medicaid and Medicare
will pay, and we aren't allowed to have different pricing for non-medicare,
except on a case by case, income-based sliding scale, most private carriers
set payment rates for Mental Health to the Medicaid/Medicare levels... so
all our client time is billed at the subsidy rate, OR LESS...
Ob Trav: I can think of only a few fields that would have subsidies in the
3I: Shipping, Ships, and System Forces. Maybe commo and starports... IMTU,
the "standard Rates" are the 3I's voucher redemption rates for 3I personell
and equipment travelling.
William F. Hostman | "Smith & Wesson: THe original Point and Click
interface!"
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533
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ICQ:14640742 AIM:AKAramis ARM 1.0: 3 R H++ P+
IMTU 1.0: tc tm++ tn- t4-- tt+ to- tg-- ru+ ge 3i+ c+ jt-() au+ st- ls
pi+() ta+ he+(-) kk+ as+ hi+ dr+ va++(--) so+ zh++ vi+ da++ sy- ge- pi+
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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 01:37:44 -0900
From: "William F. Hostman"
Subject: Re Caseless
><< A nice survival weapon for the IISS would be a bullpup 5mm/12Gauge combo
> survival weapon. >>
>
>Query: How do lefties use it? Granted it's caseless, but.... I look at
>pictures of modern bullpup weapons, and it looks like a lefty would have
>his/her face up against the ejector port. Can some of the gun/anti gun
>flamies help me with this one?
>
The one (and only) caseless weapon I've ever seen didn't have an ejector
port at all... The primer goes down the barrel. (I don't know the model,
nor the maker, and the guy in posession was into expensive custom guns.
/------+ |
< | +----------------]
\------+ |
^^ ^^
Slug Primer mount (propellent surrounds the pin, and the plate abuts
on the slug...
in case of duds, the upper reciever opened easily.
>Ob Trav: I assume everything is ambi, or gene therapy has eliminated left
>hand dominance (sounds very Solomani, doesn't it...:-) )
If the primer goes down the barrel, then the only factor is the human
interface... I'd rather have a hand-specific grip (more comfortable) than
an ambidexterous grip. (I've done a *LITTLE* competitive shooting, with
both handed and ambi weapons). Cutlases with half baskets are NOT likely to
be fully ambi, nor are the "Blade" 3/4 basket short-sword/long dagger;
ironically, most full baskets are ambi.
William F. Hostman | "Smith & Wesson: THe original Point and Click
interface!"
Aramis 0602 C55A364-C S kk+ as+ hi+ dr+ va++(--) so+ zh++ vi+ da++ sy- ge-
533
Mailto:aramis@gci.net http://home.gci.net/~aramis mailto:wilh@alaska.com
ICQ:14640742 AIM:AKAramis ARM 1.0: 3 R H++ P+
IMTU 1.0: tc tm++ tn- t4-- tt+ to- tg-- ru+ ge 3i+ c+ jt-() au+ st- ls
pi+() ta+ he+(-) kk+ as+ hi+ dr+ va++(--) so+ zh++ vi+ da++ sy- ge- pi+
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 01:29:23 -0900
From: "William F. Hostman"
Subject: The Ship's (bob)cat
>>Ob Trav: I never saw any articles about plumbing or bodily functions in
>>canon. I always wondered what you did about pets. Who walks the dog, or
>>changes the cat litterbox?
>
IMTU, I once let a PC have a trained semi-uplifted bobcat. It was trained
to use the fresher. It later became a PC. The phrase "Dingle, Dingle,
Dingle" is enough to get groans from any of the players who were in the
group at that time. Name of the Cat was Damncat!. When it was discovered he
really was sentient, he became a citizen, following his assignment to the
Huscarles of a Duchess.
William F. Hostman | "Smith & Wesson: THe original Point and Click
interface!"
Aramis 0602 C55A364-C S kk+ as+ hi+ dr+ va++(--) so+ zh++ vi+ da++ sy- ge-
533
Mailto:aramis@gci.net http://home.gci.net/~aramis mailto:wilh@alaska.com
ICQ:14640742 AIM:AKAramis ARM 1.0: 3 R H++ P+
IMTU 1.0: tc tm++ tn- t4-- tt+ to- tg-- ru+ ge 3i+ c+ jt-() au+ st- ls
pi+() ta+ he+(-) kk+ as+ hi+ dr+ va++(--) so+ zh++ vi+ da++ sy- ge- pi+
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 23:44:36 +1300
From: "Andrew Moffatt-Vallance"
Subject: Re: Marooned (MegaT)
From: Sethkimmel@aol.com
Date sent: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 03:09:15 EST
> Query: How do lefties use it? Granted it's caseless, but.... I look at
> pictures of modern bullpup weapons, and it looks like a lefty would have
> his/her face up against the ejector port. Can some of the gun/anti gun
> flamies help me with this one?
As one of those lefties myself, this question has particular relevance to me.
Another problem you missed is the safety/selector switch and the magazine
release (these are generally designed for right handers too). Most modern
military rifles either can be changed for either left or right handed firing (such
as the Steyr AUG) or come in left and right handed versions (such as the
Enfield L64). But it really is a problem. Back when I was trained I used either
a FN-FAL or a Sterling SMG, neither of which is leftie friendly. It was a real
pain, I even resorted to firing the Sterling upsidedown on occasion!
Andrew etc
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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 10:18:11 +0000
From: SD Mooney
Subject: Re: Re Rations
At 3:26 -0500 18/12/99, "Douglas E. Berry" wrote:
> >Ob Trav: I never saw any articles about plumbing or bodily functions in
> >canon. I always wondered what you did about pets. Who walks the dog, or
> >changes the cat litterbox?
>
>Memo: To Andy & Dom
>
>Forget about even asking. I am *not* writing "101 Freshers"
:-) LoL
I'm not sure what a first year university student ('fresher') has to
do with litter boxes?
Dom
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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 06:35:02 -0500
From: "Josh W. Spencer"
Subject: Re: Silly Traveller
On 12/17/1999 23:36, Sethkimmel@aol.com wrote:
>
> Ob Trav: would the Koran, Torah and King James Bible be recognizable in 5700
> AD?
>
Yes. In DGP's old Traveller's Digest 19, there was an interview with Desmond
Trinoch, Chairman of the Solomani Confederation High Council. In it he
specifically refers to the "Holy Bible of old Terra" and tells a quick
snippet of the story of King Solomon, the baby and the two mothers. He uses
the analogy to compare the factions' greed (except the Solomani of course)
in allowing their child, the Imperium, "...to be murdered. No man or woman
who would commit such a crime is worthy to lead any other."
Great article, but then again this is the Solomani Movement that's being
highlighted here. They too have their heroes and villains.
- --
Josh
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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 06:41:57 -0500
From: "Josh W. Spencer"
Subject: Re: OT unless applying Kenji's corollary
From: Eric Henry
>>
>> The socialized medicine thing would have to go, however.
On 12/18/1999 00:54, Chris Seamans wrote:
>
> That's funny, I didn't think that Canada had socialized medicine. On the
> other hand, having seen the economic hardship that prolonged sickness can,
> and more often than not, does bring onto families, I'm far from convinced
> that "capitalized medicine" is all that much better.
>
And Canada's single-payer system is what all the media wants us to look
toward for a "better health care system, just like Bill and Hillary. BAD
EXAMPLE for Americans! Other countries, such as the Federal Republic of
Germany, have a health care system which is a partnership between the
government, the providers and the insurers. I have a nephew who will be 9 in
January, and he was born in a German hospital (and for now he has dual
citizenship), there were some complications in his delivery. He eventually
came through OK, but at least his mother (my sister) didn't have to worry
about the bills.
- --
Josh
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