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Traveller-digest Saturday, December 4 1999 Volume 1999 : Number 1441
(R)1996. Traveller is a registered trademark of FarFuture Enterprises.
All rights reserved.
The following topics are covered in this digest:
IMPORTANT QUESTION ANSWERED...
TRTOOLS update
Re: Morons with wrenches [was sci-fi films]
Re: Cannon Fodder
Re: Farscape
Re: One of our worlds is missing!
Re: Postal stuff
Re: Re : Professional Stereotyping
Just to see what happens..
OT: Must buy game
Re: "Aslan" name debate again
Re: Fwd: Re: Log 1.15
Re: "Aslan" name debate again
Re: Just to see what happens..
Re: Why Visit Other Worlds?
World Builder Deluxe is looking for a new home
Re: "Aslan" name debate again
Re: 3D to 2D mapping
Re: Just to see what happens..
Re: Cannon Fodder (Modern Ancients)
Kenji's inventions
Re: Empress Wave
RE: Postal stuff
RE: Just to see what happens..
Help finding BITS product
Re: Kenji's inventions
Re: OT: Must buy game
Re: World Builder Deluxe is looking for a new home
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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 00:10:14 +0800
From: "Mick Bailey"
Subject: IMPORTANT QUESTION ANSWERED...
>BTW...When does FOOTY season start?
For me, January 29th (Fremantle v Carlton)
CARN THE DOCKERS
Sorry.....
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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 00:24:01 +0800
From: "Mick Bailey"
Subject: TRTOOLS update
I'm in the process of converting TRTOOLS to something a little more
cross-platfrom....so I'm slowly rewriting the buger in Java. Since I'm
learning the language as I go along it'll prolly be bugy as hell at first,
but worth it in the long run.
Anyone interested in beta^h^h^h^halpha testing for me?
Mick Bailey
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 08:23:22 -0800
From: "Kiri Aradia Morgan"
Subject: Re: Morons with wrenches [was sci-fi films]
From: Rick Stump
>A friend of mine who is an aerospace engineer with a major defense
contractor said a fair amount of engineering work on nuclear missiles for
subs was making them 'sailor-proof' because guys who *knew* they contained a
few pounds of glowing death would use inspection latches to open bottles,
hide food next to safety switches, etc. He said the worst was a guy caught
shorting wires to light a cigar!!!
>Spacers are paranoid 'cuz out there Darwin can inflict collateral damage.
>
>
For the last few years I've been working as an administrative assistant in a
variety of clinical and research laboratories at the University of
California-San Francisco.
It is amazing to me that people who work in a clinical laboratory dealing
with all the permutations of the AIDS virus (San Francisco has always been
ground zero for new developments) and people who work with Dr. Prusiner, who
discovered the prion (cause of Mad Cow Disease, Creutzfeldt-Jakob's Disease,
and scrapie) must have huge signs in the lab saying:
"No Food and Drink"
"Do Not Store Food in this Refrigerator"
and my personal favorite,
"DO NOT PIPET BY MOUTH!"
'nuff said.
Kiri
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kiri Aradia Morgan 93! Thou Art God...
tiamat@tsoft.com
"That wickedness weltering around inside of you, inside of everyone, is
sacred somewhere. There's
a deity out here who digs it. You can respect and love your darkest side,
disposing of only what is obsolete or impractical. It's all about giving
yourself permission."
-- Jack Darkhand
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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 08:08:44
From: "Douglas E. Berry"
Subject: Re: Cannon Fodder
At 05:01 PM 12/3/1999 -0900, you wrote:
>We know from Twighlight's Peak that some HAVE survived... And we know from
>Adv 12 that Yaskodray is still twiddling about. But did he actually get ALL
>his 1st generation descendants? The ones with the "Inspiration" gene?
Grandpop made sure that he got all the kids and grandkids (he kept careful
count.) Isolated installations survived, because soon after the last of
the Drayskyn died, Yaskodray pinched off his pocket universe.
The Droyne Warriors in TP were just that: Droyne. (It would have more fun
if the stasis shells had collapsed and the players found themselves facing
a horde of H. erectus carrying disintegrators.. hmm.. may have to re-write
that for the next run..)
- --
Douglas E. Berry gridlore@mindspring.com
http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com/sylea.html
TML Great Old One
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Chant "Gridlore" thrice to summon.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 08:10:24
From: "Douglas E. Berry"
Subject: Re: Farscape
At 01:16 PM 12/3/1999 -0800, you wrote:
>Doug Berry writes:
>
>> At 12:20 PM 12/3/1999 -0600, you wrote:
>> >What does John have to hide?
>>
>> That he really, *really* likes Rigel...
>
>ROTFLMAOASTC!!! You finally did it, Doug. After *YEARS* of restraint
>and self-control, you make me nork Starbuck's all over my monitor! :^)
And I'm going to be near this man with lots of weapons and ammo next
weekend....
- --
Douglas E. Berry gridlore@mindspring.com
http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com/index.html
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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 08:13:27
From: "Douglas E. Berry"
Subject: Re: One of our worlds is missing!
At 01:07 PM 12/3/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Ahem ... photocopied, COLORED and taped together wall map!
Well, I made *one* mistake drawing the border, and had to rip the entire
thing down and start again!
Why couldn't I have been this much of a perfectionist about school?
- --
Douglas E. Berry gridlore@mindspring.com
http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com/index.html
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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 08:15:56
From: "Douglas E. Berry"
Subject: Re: Postal stuff
At 11:14 AM 12/4/1999 +0000, you wrote:
>And BTW, thanks to Don - I'm impressed with Dark Nebula!
Agreed. Don got my copy of Invasion: Earth quickly, and in exactly the
condition described. Good trader. (My wife's exact words upon seeing the
box: "you spent $65 on that?")
- --
Douglas E. Berry gridlore@mindspring.com
http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com/index.html
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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 08:21:00
From: "Douglas E. Berry"
Subject: Re: Re : Professional Stereotyping
At 12:30 PM 12/3/1999 -0800, you wrote:
>No apology needed. There should be no dispute that
>what you said is true. A small amount of the legal
>work that is done involves threats to life -- death
>penalty work, some immigration/deportation cases, some
>family law situations (spouse/child abuse). A smaller
>amount involves immediate threats. So we tend to sit
>and stew over problems, do research, talk to
>colleagues, write letters and motions, etc. So tv
>totally mischaracterizes the length of time needed to
>resolve legal issues.
The show "Law & Order" handles this fairly well.. if you follow the dates
on the screen you see that the actual cases take weeks or months, we just
see the highlights. The show is also a great source of plots.
>>Medicine, especially in my current area of
>>employment, has lots of problems that need fixing
>>within an hour or two. In fact, most of them
>>need solution within five to ten minutes.
>
>And "need" is not a rhetorical device in those two
>sentences. If the problem isn't fixed, the person
>with the problem may die or suffer some grievous
>physical harm.
*grin* Unless you have my doctor. He's so fed up with my body that unless
I can show him blood, in large amounts, he waits a week before ordering
anything. Even then we've discovered the universal cure: go see Dr.
Waltuch. No matter what the complaint it clears up in the waiting room.
- --
Douglas E. Berry gridlore@mindspring.com
http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com/index.html
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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 08:24:39
From: "Douglas E. Berry"
Subject: Just to see what happens..
Roger Sanger
Leroy Guatney
Clif
Figured this might have the same effect as chanting Hastur three times...
- --
Douglas E. Berry gridlore@mindspring.com
http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com/sylea.html
TML Great Old One
Plague of the Traveller Riders of the Apocalypse
Chant "Gridlore" thrice to summon.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 08:37:03
From: "Douglas E. Berry"
Subject: OT: Must buy game
Everybody reading this must go out and buy Chez Geek from Steve Jackson
Games. Now. When I entered Gamescape yesterday to by Pokemon for the
half-siblings in law, the manager practicly leapt over the counter to tell
me about this game.
It's a card game, artwork by John Kovalic (Murphy's Rules, Dork Tower)
about trying to get more slack than your roomates in an overcrowded
apartment. You have a job, anything from Drummer to Corporate Wage-Slave,
which detrmines your income and free time. You use these stats to purchase
items and do activities that increase your slack.
This game is f'ing hillarious. Every single card made me laugh. John's
artwork reaches a new demented high here.
Oh, everybody *but* Craig can buy this game. He can't.
The Sniper, confusing the Traveller Mailing List with this sniper tag
line...
- --
Douglas E. Berry gridlore@mindspring.com
http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com/index.html
"Soon the rapacious sea chickens/will carry you off
and wrap you in a hard shell, yum yum."
Poorly translated Argentine Taco Bell jingle.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 10:48:53 -0500
From: Robert Prior
Subject: Re: "Aslan" name debate again
>Besides, you are overlooking an inmportant point. Like it or not, he
>*does* own the copyright. So before doing anything too drastic, stop
>and consider how you'd feel if someone did that to *your* material.
>
>--
>Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow)
> shadow@krypton.rain.com <--preferred
>leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com <--last resort
My point was that he _doesn't_ own the copyright to everything that DGP
published.
My work, for example (everything but Starship Operators Manual) was never
paid for. Joe and I had a contract, in which I would be paid in exchange
for the copyright. As I was never paid, DGP never got the copyright.
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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 13:10:00 -0400
From: Michel Vaillancourt
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Log 1.15
At 07:06 PM 11/30/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>Derek stopped posting to the tml, but I wanted you guys to know that his
>Play By ICQ game is still going on.
>
He also posts to the "pbem-logs" mailing list whenever there is an
update to the game logs on his site.
--Michel
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 12:11:50 -0500
From: "Swordy (Colin Michael)"
Subject: Re: "Aslan" name debate again
Since most of the Aslan language words and the means of generating more were
laid out in the Aslan module by Andy Keith, I think GDW has rights to about
any Aslan word, whether they coined it or not. Events and characters first
published in DGP material are another matter. I would not be surprised to
find that Andy Keith wrote something somewhere that uses the word prior to
the DGP instance anyway. Keep looking :-)
- -C
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Kenji Schwarz
> > Line 1, p5, Chapter 1, The Aslan..... "The Aslan (who call themselves
> > Fteirle)..."
>
> Ah! I haven't read that yet, if ever. But so far as I can tell,
> "Fteirle" appears in DGP publications only prior to this, so shouldn't it
> have been part of the "forbidden canon" for GURPS publication purposes?
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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 11:17:26 -0600
From: Black ICE
Subject: Re: Just to see what happens..
"Douglas E. Berry" wrote:
>
> Roger Sanger
> Leroy Guatney
> Clif
>
> Figured this might have the same effect as chanting Hastur three times...
"In the Archives of TML Dead Clif Waits Dreaming...."
(And on Jesse DeGraff's Web site, dead Clif sits _steaming_!)
http://www.vision-forge-graphics.com/jesse/traveller/ditzie.htm
(Fourth picture from the top, for any newcomers to the list)
- --
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 12:31:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Kenji Schwarz
Subject: Re: Why Visit Other Worlds?
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Robert Prior wrote:
> >Yes, but not in OTU! It's clean family fun!
> >
> >Kenji
>
>
>
>
> Do you have any idea how painful nasally-expelled warm milk is?
>
> Kenji, may you have an accident with your PMPG!!!
>
>
> PS. If you're a newcomer, hunt the archives for some of Kenji's
> more....interesting inventions.
I'm *still* looking for someone to help me build a mockup of the PMPP.
Must be good with power tools & wear comfortable work boots, etc.
I just had a great idea for a multipurpose um "tool", let's call it, using
"memory plastics" like comes up on the list once in a while in discussions
of ultra-keen covert Gizmos Of Death (GODs, that is). I'll check w/my
neighbors in the law school dorms before I post it to the list, though.
Kenji
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 18:23:19 -0000
From: "Stuart Ferris"
Subject: World Builder Deluxe is looking for a new home
I am presently looking for a new server to locate my World Builder Deluxe
program. The current server that I use is becoming increasingly unreliable
and I have come to the conclusion that it is time to move on.
If anyone can help drop me an e-mail.
The next version of WBD (it will be known as Heaven & Earth) is planned for
release before the end of the year. I have been making a number of
significant improvements to the program over the last three months in an
effort to make the program easier to use. More details will follow shortly.
Stuart Ferris
stuart.ferris@virgin.net
http://freespace.virgin.net/stuart.ferris/index.htm
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 10:31:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Terry Mixon
Subject: Re: "Aslan" name debate again
- --- Robert Prior wrote:
> My point was that he _doesn't_ own the copyright to everything that
> DGP published.
>
> My work, for example (everything but Starship Operators Manual) was
> never paid for. Joe and I had a contract, in which I would be paid
> in exchange for the copyright. As I was never paid, DGP never got
> the copyright.
Do you actually have it filed in your name? If not, he could have
filed for it and then he would until you challenged it. If it is
in DGP's name, then it is his until you take it away from him. If he
has, you aught to sue him for the rest of the copyrights as payment.
Terry
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 19:33:06 -0000
From: "Mark S Peace"
Subject: Re: 3D to 2D mapping
- -----Original Message-----
>
>You can resolve both problems by having big chunks of space which can't be
>jumped into, but this has its own weird problems.
>
>
>Care to expand? I'm more willing to accept innacessible portions of real
>space than a 2D universe.
>
Well, this means there could be systems physically within the 3I (or any
other empire) that couldn't be reached by Jump. STL ships from these
systems could arrive in the middle of the imperium without having to travel
through any imperial systems. I'm sure the 3I would have to send ships to
these systems etc.
This could all be very interesting but it dosn't really tie in with the OTU
Mark.
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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 21:37:35 +0100
From: Jens Rydholm
Subject: Re: Just to see what happens..
Douglas E. Berry wrote:
> Roger Sanger
> Leroy Guatney
> Clif
>
> Figured this might have the same effect as chanting Hastur three
> times...
*BOOM*
(sound of Douglas being hit by a large, yellow truck at high speed)
/Jens 'Spacejens' Rydholm
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 14:35:06 -0600
From: "Andrew Akins"
Subject: Re: Cannon Fodder (Modern Ancients)
William F. Hostman
> But, the thought occurred to me that one other facet has yet to really get
> grungy on the TML... Are there or are theyre not still anchients Active in
> the universe BESIDES Yaskodray (AKA Grandfather)?
>
> We know from Twighlight's Peak that some HAVE survived... And we know from
> Adv 12 that Yaskodray is still twiddling about. But did he actually get
ALL
> his 1st generation descendants? The ones with the "Inspiration" gene?
I would think that all of the Children and Grandchildren would be either
dead or pinched off with Grandfather (or their own space). If any were out
and about, why wouldn't they have a little empire carved out for themselves?
I'm sorry, but nothing the Imperial Navy has can deal with White Globes,
Disintegrators, Jump Projectors, Antimatter Missiles, and other toys...
Now in MTU, however, I've got a group of six Droyne worlds that remember the
good 'ol days - that is, they never suffered the cultural slide back that
most Droyne suffered. They know the true history of the Droyne and such -
but without Grandfather or the Kiddies, they simply have little drive or
ability to maintain high technology - so they're only TL 13 (GTL 11) now.
Andy
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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 21:48:46 +0100
From: Jens Rydholm
Subject: Kenji's inventions
Robert Prior wrote:
> > PS. If you're a newcomer, hunt the archives for some of Kenji's
> > more....interesting inventions.
I had a bunch of them, but I lost the files in a crash. Are they
collected somewhere? Perhaps Kenji keeps them somewhere... perhaps in a
bunker... in order to prepare for Y2K...
Kenji Schwarz wrote:
> I'm *still* looking for someone to help me build a mockup of the
> PMPP.
> Must be good with power tools & wear comfortable work boots, etc.
If you ever manage to create this, you must post a picture of fifty on
the web somewhere. Otherwise, we will send the leeeegals after you.
/Jens 'Spacejens' Rydholm
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 14:03:28 -0700
From: cos 90
Subject: Re: Empress Wave
>Is that where they found the Empress Wave? What IS that?
Her Highness Iolanthe Alkhalikoi leading the cheer at a soccer game?
Glenn St-Germain § Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
cos90@powersurfr.com § http://plaza.powersurfr.com/glenn
"There is no longer any normal to be"
-- Gary Numan
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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 13:21:05 -0800
From: Jesse DeGraff
Subject: RE: Postal stuff
Now if said USPS could just get my copy of "Space Dogs" to me.....
=)
Jesse
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com
[mailto:owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com]On Behalf Of SD Mooney
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 3:14 AM
To: traveller@lists.imagiconline.com
Subject: Postal stuff
Well, not so long ago people were discussing the reliability of the
US Postal Service. I'm impressed - Don McKinney sent me two excellent
condition Traveller products from his last auction on the 29th Nov,
and they arrived on 2nd Dec - 4 days from the US to the UK seems good
to me.
And BTW, thanks to Don - I'm impressed with Dark Nebula!
Dom
- ----------Dom Mooney---dom@cybergoths.u-net.com------------
MiB - Marines in Battledress
"Protecting the Imperium from the Scum of the Galaxy"
Rob Prior's Mac software @ http://www.bits.org.uk/
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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 13:21:06 -0800
From: Jesse DeGraff
Subject: RE: Just to see what happens..
Aw shucks, you remembered =)
Jesse
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com
[mailto:owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com]On Behalf Of Black ICE
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 9:17 AM
To: traveller@lists.imagiconline.com
Subject: Re: Just to see what happens..
"Douglas E. Berry" wrote:
>
> Roger Sanger
> Leroy Guatney
> Clif
>
> Figured this might have the same effect as chanting Hastur three times...
"In the Archives of TML Dead Clif Waits Dreaming...."
(And on Jesse DeGraff's Web site, dead Clif sits _steaming_!)
http://www.vision-forge-graphics.com/jesse/traveller/ditzie.htm
(Fourth picture from the top, for any newcomers to the list)
- --
AuricTech Shipyards Journeyman Gearhead
"Gold-Plated [tm] solutions for copper-plated problems!" (r)
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/9776
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 16:27:02 -0500
From: "Swordy (Colin Michael)"
Subject: Help finding BITS product
I have enjoyed the BITS 101 products and am looking forward to the new
adventures that are coming out, but there is one BITS product that I need,
but cannot find. Does anyone anywhere know where I can lay my hands on a
copy of the 1997 version of The Traveller Bibliography? I have spoken with
Timothy Collinson, inquired of BITS and scoured the eBay listings. I know
that there is a new, updated version at the printers, but I need the earlier
version. Anyone?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The Traveller Domain
www.downport.com
Colin Michael, WebDev
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 16:57:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Kenji Schwarz
Subject: Re: Kenji's inventions
On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Jens Rydholm wrote:
> Robert Prior wrote:
> > > PS. If you're a newcomer, hunt the archives for some of Kenji's
> > > more....interesting inventions.
>
> I had a bunch of them, but I lost the files in a crash. Are they
> collected somewhere? Perhaps Kenji keeps them somewhere... perhaps in a
> bunker... in order to prepare for Y2K...
I'm not going into any damn bunker for Y2K! I already missed some great
fun in Seattle this last week (meek, cautious, mossy rioters!) by moving
out to Puritanland. Next public mayhem that happens, I expect to get my
damn front-row seat! I'm a Haaaahvad student, I *deserve* these things.
(Irony only on last sentence, s'il vous plait).
I don't have the designs any more, actually. But never fear! Some
clueless soul, obviously no reader of the TML, has sold me a copy of Fire,
Fusion, and Steel II! Now I'm redesigning all those favorites of
yesteryear -- the PMPP, the RoboReindeer, the TL-C Bong, the Foucault
Class Discursive Cruisers, the Lav Ship...
In fact, just while typing this email, I had an exceptionally sick thought
I'm going to translate into Traveller hardware as soon as I get back to my
rooms.
See you soon, hee hee, very soon, very, hee hee --
Kenji
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 14:05:06 -0800
From: "Benyamene' ZeAbe' Akella"
Subject: Re: OT: Must buy game
Via electronic medium on 12/4/99 8:37 AM, gridlore@pop.mindspring.com wrote:
> "Soon the rapacious sea chickens/will carry you off
> and wrap you in a hard shell, yum yum."
> Poorly translated Argentine Taco Bell jingle.
Is this a real advertising glitch? Like the foreign soda ad saying "Drink
your ancestors!"? (or something like that)
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 14:14:50 -0800
From: "Benyamene' ZeAbe' Akella"
Subject: Re: World Builder Deluxe is looking for a new home
Via electronic medium on 12/4/99 10:23 AM, stuart.ferris@virgin.net wrote:
> I am presently looking for a new server to locate my World Builder Deluxe
> program. The current server that I use is becoming increasingly unreliable
> and I have come to the conclusion that it is time to move on.
I'm having thought along these lines as well. My ISP is what I am using for
server space now, and they are a real ho-dunk operation. I use a Mac, and
they say they can't support CGI scripting unless I'm using Win95 or NT. I
don't know if they know what they are talking about, but I'm no better
informed myself. I have some forms and stuff I have been working on for
RPGs, and would like to get them up on my site. So I guess I should move it.
Where to?
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